No Fault Evictions

[John Brown]

This did catch my eye:


In its current state it is completely incompetent, run by incompetents and done by incompetents.

To quantify my statement, pal of mine, a car salesman by trade if that is a trade, went on a 1 week course to "qualify" to do them:

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And ironically when the Home information packs were introduced, years ago, cut and paste the last part of the above sentence.

Whatever I may think about the rest of this thread, I have to say that I agree that the EPC assessors are variable, to put it politely. You can get surprisingly different assessments from different operatives, and the assessments do not seem to be remotely scientific.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

This did catch my eye:


In its current state it is completely incompetent, run by incompetents and done by incompetents.

To quantify my statement, pal of mine, a car salesman by trade if that is a trade, went on a 1 week course to "qualify" to do them:

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And ironically when the Home information packs were introduced, years ago, cut and paste the last part of the above sentence.

Run by incompetents? Mine said I could jump from a D to a C by changing to low energy lightbulbs - there was one lamp in the whole place that wasn't low energy. He managed to miss 20 square yards of single sblock wall that should have cavity by regs. when built, though. He did make some recommenadations for improvements, though - that would take 125 years to pay back.

 

[HOJ]

My Mum's 20 year old Bung in North Norfolk was given a D, with the recommendation that adopting the following would change it to a B:



That would only be, by my poor math reckoning, 35 years to pay back, she's 91, and it had the first 3 items already, which somehow was missed in the 20 minutes it took to do the assessment.

 

[Yorkieguy]

I bet Microband is peed off at his place in the scheme of things.

This letter in The Times is worth a read.

It refers to when Rishi Sunak was Chancellor, and given a 'freebie' case of wine, and how he responded to the 'gift'.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

We had a couple of firms here doing the rounds of insulating the roofs of pensioners, people on benefits etc. free. I had had mine done as it was deemed sub standard - it 6"- 8". I found it rather sad that instead of rolling the new stuff over it to bump up the depth, they stripped everything out, threw it away and started from scratch. A diffferent firm did my neighbour's. They didn't take the old stuff out they just topped it up ............... except they rolled the new stuff over everything she had stored in loft.

 

[Jacob]

Whatever I may think about the rest of this thread, I have to say that I agree that the EPC assessors are variable, to put it politely. You can get surprisingly different assessments from different operatives, and the assessments do not seem to be remotely scientific.

We had our last building done (converted chapel) by the delegated local chap (random choice, not ours) and he turned out to be a well qualified and experienced building surveyor with a proactive interest in the whole issue. He looked very closely at all sorts of things, asked me a lot of questions about the conversion, looked closely at photos of work in progress etc.
100% professional job. We got C.
If they are not up to the job I blame the employers (the government).
The idea is obviously a very good one and we'll have to hope it improves and develops.
Must not allow the moaning un-wokerati to run it into the ground, as they try to do with so many things.

 

[Jacob]

But its socialism that allows and enables people to milk the system.

What a weird thing to say! The whole point of de-regulation, neo liberalism, market economy, conservatism, de-regulation, right wingism, capitalism, whatever you want to call it, is to allow people/businesses to "milk" the system. Everybody knows this - it's the whole point! The ideology says it will all work out for the best in the end.
The whole point of socialism in it's many forms and varieties is to control this for the benefit of the many, not the few. Driven by practical necessity not ideology.

 

[Scruples]

How do we know what the numbers and reasons are?

Well, there's the fact that we are talking about benefit misuse, and the other fact that Starmer is, he says, going to clamp down on benefit cheats which indicates that there's a problem.
No government will ever eliminate benefit fraud but they cound keep it down to a level that doesn't affect the coffers too much.

There are people with very minor ailment who amplify them to obtain benefits. That includes a disproportionate amount of obese people. Hence the term, fat and lazy.
There are career cheats who were brought up in famailes that cheated the system.
There are those who just want more than they are capable of earning and seek a little extra.
There are also people who do work but always for cash sos as to avoid paying taxes. These may be inclusive of any one of the above. It gives some, in power, the argument for cashless societies.

 

[Scruples]

We had our last building done (converted chapel) by the delegated local chap (random choice, not ours) and he turned out to be a well qualified and experienced building surveyor with a proactive interest in the whole issue. He looked very closely at all sorts of things, asked me a lot of questions about the conversion, looked closely at photos of work in progress etc.
100% professional job. We got C.
If they are not up to the job I blame the employers (the government).
The idea is obviously a very good one and we'll have to hope it improves and develops.
Must not allow the moaning un-wokerati to run it into the ground, as they do with so many things.

Interesing comment, Jacob. But, I would say that no individual is going to start tearing into tradesmen while carrying out an inspection unless he's bigger than any of them. That would be fraught with dangers, mostly physically but certainly confrontational.

There is a possibility, of course, that the work wasn't as good as you thought it was. Pride, after all, is a strong emotion.

 

[John Hughes01]

I have seen forms of society as developing situations. The ideal of communism is great if we all have nothing and there are loads of ignorant peasants to comply - the people living in that social system have all to be the same in terms of possessions and wealth. This,of course,cannot be sustained for long as some will be brighter and find education and wealth. ie. social systems will inevitably develop and transform into something "better". How can you can have the richest people in the world in your social system and still call yourselt communist. How can yo claim to be truly socialist and yet delve into capital money? There is nothing wrong with saving for a rainy day as the Bible says so a three tier capital social system is always going to happen eventually - if you visit St Petresburg you will see a very happy capitalist system with the roads blocked with Mercs,BMs etc. Our guide happily reminded us that less than five years earlier they were on a five year waiting list for a Lada!

 

[Jacob]

Interesing comment, Jacob. But, I would say that no individual is going to start tearing into tradesmen while carrying out an inspection unless he's bigger than any of them. That would be fraught with dangers, mostly physically but certainly confrontational.

There is a possibility, of course, that the work wasn't as good as you thought it was. Pride, after all, is a strong emotion.

Oh yes of course! He thought I might attack him with a mallet or something?
What a very daft idea!
We probably gave him a cup of tea but I don't think that would have influenced him. More likely it was the vast amount of insulation we had installed, visible in many parts, photographed when work was in progress etc etc.

 

[Jacob]

I have seen forms of society as developing situations. The ideal of communism is great if we all have nothing and there are loads of ignorant peasants to comply - the people living in that social system have all to be the same in terms of possessions and wealth. This,of course,cannot be sustained for long as some will be brighter and find education and wealth. ie. social systems will inevitably develop and transform into something "better". How can you can have the richest people in the world in your social system and still call yourselt communist. How can yo claim to be truly socialist and yet delve into capital money? There is nothing wrong with saving for a rainy day as the Bible says so a three tier capital social system is always going to happen eventually - if you visit St Petresburg you will see a very happy capitalist system with the roads blocked with Mercs,BMs etc. Our guide happily reminded us that less than five years earlier they were on a five year waiting list for a Lada!

Not sure what you are talking about.
In Britain, most of Europe and many other places, we all have in place a civilised form of socialism, with extensive welfare provision and other state services, including nationalised industries and also support for the private sector. It's normal, involves high taxation given back as state spending, and is regulated ultimately by the ballot box and universal suffrage.
Communism is another thing, though you could say it has always been alive and well in smaller groups such the family itself.

 

[Jacob]

Spongers who scrounge of others are everywhere. Those at the bottom of the heap will look at those at the top and think 'If they do it, why shouldn't I. It's just different pockets they dip into. No shortage of 'role models' to follow. Smiling, smirking or laughing out loud?:
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I agree. Lobbying should be stopped entirely. There are some very dodgy characters behind it, pushing their own agendas.