andycorleone
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Just when I thought he was out... they pulled him back in!
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Suggest you read the forum rules before posting offensive comments such as thisPete W":2vfp86j1 said:There you go. Roger's trying it on; he knows it, and we know it.
Don't presume or have the arrogance to make a statement such as this without knowing the facts.Pete W":2vfp86j1 said:As for the law, I'm sure Roger's had plenty of time to consult his CAB, trading standards, or a lawyer. I'm equally sure he hasn't bothered.
Suggest you keep the personal attacks out of the forum.Pete W":2vfp86j1 said:But the law is relatively straightforward: he's entitled to an alternative product, or a full refund and any damages suffered. He hasn't suffered any damages. They've offered him a full refund. Everything else is self-justification, pious claptrap, and rather stomach-turning.
Tommo the sawdust maker":2gdnrhhb said:It seems the main protagonist in this case isn't even Roger anymore.
I think if it gets to the Small Claims they are far more interested in what is fair and reasonable.
If a B&Q rep stands up and says we don't normally do business that way
and that it was ordered in on the basis of being available in their distribution network which as we all know it wasn't the action will be dismissed.
Tommo the sawdust maker":3ecwjk7m said:As far as I know the Small Claims doesn't delve that far into contract law.
The difference in small claims (and there is a big difference) is that the procedure is simpler, quicker, with less frills, and a much more summary flavour, with an eye to keeping costs right down. That's so as to try to ensure that the law can be sensibly applied to low value disputes, and giving access to justice in that sort of case.
Tommo the sawdust maker":1px92cdx said:Like I said is it fair, is it reasonable thats where the court will ask about the companies normal working practice, if it gets that far because it appears Roger already accepted his money back which means he has no contract. I think it highly unlikely he would be offered the difference between a clearance item and full retail.
Tommo the sawdust maker":2zii9h4w said:P.S Slim whats with the plea to the Moderators Roger seems quite capable of telling anyone whom he finds insulting to naff off!
Tommo the sawdust maker":as9tbduh said:Dear Jake,
you have your opinion of what the outcome would be I have mine.
If it ever gets to court perhaps R.S could let us know the result.
Should it be the case that there is no place in the law for fairness and reason I will happily accede the point.
Digit":1b44dhyr said:B&Q claim that Rob was a offered a suitable replacement of equivalent value. As they don't normally sell routers of Triton's quality, how would they claim to perform that trick without supplying a Triton?
Or am I being too logical? Awkward?
Roy.
Jake":3jy7697v said:I'm a lawyer
Pete W":3agarjmi said:Perhaps you can point me to the relevant statute, or case law, that requires a retailer to supply the precise make and model in question. Because I can't find one (and believe me, I've looked).
What I found, as I said in my earlier post, is a requirement to offer a reasonable alternative, or a full refund. According to Roger, B&Q immediately made that offer.
There has been extensive (not to say exhaustive) discussion in various threads about B&Q and Triton routers and we all know that some stores are offering stock clearance discounts. Roger tried to score one at the cheap price, and it didn't work.
If my saying that Roger "was trying it on" constitutes some kind of vicious personal attack then I apologise; I didn't see it that way and didn't mean it that way.
I do find the attempts to turn the situation into a moral crusade rather stomach-turning. Others are, of course, free to disagree.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Got one today
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Sorry I can't answer your question regarding base.
I managed to get the last router today from the BandQ in Gillingham(kent)
boxed with all the bits and pieces for a bargain £50.
There are two at the Dartford and Sidcup branch apparently.
But you have to be super friendly to the old boys in the power tool dept, as they have to go and rummage around in the warehouse.
The guy I dealt with happened to be a retired furniture maker, he managed to get the price down from £98 for me.
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