Refused Petrol

[Racers]

Why, I had my helmet on!!!! they wanted me to remove it before I could use the pump, the previous time I went it was o/k now I am a criminal! don't use the Co-op petrol stations.

Mapperley Top in Nottingham was the one I went to I have been using it for years for both the car and bike, but not any more.


Pete

 

[Max Power]

They must of been having a lot of people driving off without paying, but you were hardly going to nick a load of petrol on a motorbike :roll:

 

[Racers]

Hi,

3.3 gallons max in mine, unbelevable isn't it, shall I try going back in a Burka?

Pete

 

[TrimTheKing]

Hi,

3.3 gallons max in mine, unbelevable isn't it, shall I try going back in a Burka?

Pete

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[johnny.t.]

.........shall I try going back in a Burka?

Didn't know burkas had fuel tanks in them...........

 

[Max Power]

From your addition of the emoticon you were obviously joking Trim.

On a serious note isn't it so easy to be accused of being a racist if you use even one word about an ethnic group that could be taken out of context or deemed to be negative in any way

 

[TrimTheKing]

From your addition of the emoticon you were obviously joking Trim.

On a serious note isn't it so easy to be accused of being a racist if you use even one word about an ethnic group that could be taken out of context or deemed to be negative in any way

Hi mate, yes, just having a laugh, but you are right, there are some sensitive souls that seem to take great pleasure in playing the race card should anyone dare to question, or even comment on something/one with a non caucasian background.

But in one way, isn't the point Pete makes just racism the 'other way round'? If the rules state that your face must be uncovered for security purposes and that means that Pete needs to take off his helmet, then regardless of religion or anything else, the security risk is still the same should someone (and I state someone, not necessarily a woman...) turn up in a Burka (or any other kind of face covering veil for that matter).

Asking Pete to remove his helmet, but not someone in a veil, is enforcing a rule on one element of society but exempting another. Probably not racism in itself, but a point that could be contested I would have thought.

 

[Tom K]

Obviously Pete should go back wearing a burkha and the helmet.
Then be a good boy and comply. Bloody bikerists :lol:

 

[Racers]

Hi,

I have sent a strongly worded Email to the Co-op, I will let you know if I get a reply.

Pete

 

[Max Power]

Hi Trim, totally agree regulations/laws/rules should be applied equally and fairly across the board.

 

[bugbear]

Why, I had my helmet on!!!! they wanted me to remove it before I could use the pump, the previous time I went it was o/k now I am a criminal!

Is this the same idea/rule banks apply?

Edit; it looks like "it varies" a lot; here's a relatively polite and constructive thread:

http://www.tlzone.net/forums/uk-forum-i ... ation.html

BugBear

 

[Dibs-h]

Why, I had my helmet on!!!! they wanted me to remove it before I could use the pump, the previous time I went it was o/k now I am a criminal!

Is this the same idea/rule banks apply?

Edit; it looks like "it varies" a lot; here's a relatively polite and constructive thread:

http://www.tlzone.net/forums/uk-forum-i ... ation.html

BugBear

I think it's the lack of consistency being applied that get's people's goat. It should be the same for all folk.

It is a tad bit daft - I mean just how much fuel does a tank on a bike hold? :roll:

 

[Thomas Hayman]

Couldn't you have just taken your helmet off and played by their rules?

 

[wizer]

I must admit, I thought this was pretty much a given. What's the problem with removing your helmet? I always did when I rode bikes.

 

[studders]

Most places I go I get asked to cover my Boat Race?

 

[Racers]

What about sunglasses, base ball caps, scarves, veils, burkas?


Pete

 

[TrimTheKing]

Getting back to the OP, whether it's fairly applied across the board or otherwise aside, what is the problem with being asked to remove your lid?

In these days of people nicking pretty much anything nailed down, is it really that unreasonable to be asked to show your face to a security camera so they can ID you if you do decide to do a runner?

Not having a pop at you here Pete, it's a geniune question. It strikes me that you have spent as much time logging into the forum and writing the post as it would have taken to just take your lid off to comply with their rule?

Would you happily comply if it was applied to Burka's too or was that just a flippant comment and you truly object to being asked to remove the lid?

Like I say, not having a pop, just genuinely trying to understand the issue here.

Cheers

Mark

 

[Mike.C]

Most places I go I get asked to cover my Boat Race?

No I cannot believe that Mr S :lol:

Cheers

Mike

 

[Mike.C]

Getting back to the OP, whether it's fairly applied across the board or otherwise aside, what is the problem with being asked to remove your lid?

In these days of people nicking pretty much anything nailed down, is it really that unreasonable to be asked to show your face to a security camera so they can ID you if you do decide to do a runner?

Not having a pop at you here Pete, it's a genuine question. It strikes me that you have spent as much time logging into the forum and writing the post as it would have taken to just take your lid off to comply with their rule?

Would you happily comply if it was applied to Burka's too or was that just a flippant comment and you truly object to being asked to remove the lid?

Like I say, not having a pop, just genuinely trying to understand the issue here.

Cheers

Mark

Mark I think that Pete's point is the removal of anything covering a face is not being equally applied across the board.

When the law enforcing the wearing of crash helmets was introduced I remember reading the same sort of problem when turban wearers did not have to abide by the same law. Although if they want to risk their lives that is their problem.

Cheers

Mike

 

[TrimTheKing]

Mark I think that Pete's point is the removal of anything covering a face is not being equally applied across the board.

When the law enforcing the wearing of crash helmets was introduced I remember reading the same sort of problem when turban wearers did not have to abide by the same law. Although if they want to risk their lives that is their problem.

Cheers

Mike

I appreciate that piece Mike but on that link that bugbear posted there was a lot of reticence to remove lids with more a view of 'why should I?', not related to any other reasons.

I just wondered what Pete's particular concern was in this case.

While I completely agree that these things should be across the board, I also believe that if a rule is in place then it is your duty to follow it, regardless of whether you agree with it, or other's are not beholden to it.

It is after all their establishment and their rules. If you don't like them then don't use their establishment again (as Pete stated in his OP), but where will that stance get you if/when it is enforced across all filling stations? Stop riding a bike just to spite them?

As my old Granny used to say, two wrongs do not make a right! If we all ignored rules we didn't like then there would be anarchy...

Cheers

Mark