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I was so impressed by the push oiler that I bought a used grease gun of theirs on ebay and tried it with oil. It totally works. You just have to hang it nose down and with the spring at the end pulled back and locked off. Supposedly they leak if you leave them with oil in the cylinder and under pressure from the big spring attached to the T handle at the end.
 
That spring combined with the pump design deliver grease at 400 bar, so I can well beleive the seals really don't like being left under pressure with oil in!

I saw that there is an optional second piston for oil use...now if only I had a way of machining one... :ROFLMAO:
 
So, having got bored squeezing into a corner to clean the machine I got the pallet truck into the workshop and moved things about to move the Lathe into a much more accessible position:

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And did a bit more cleaning:

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I also got all the bits out that came with the Lathe too:

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So 6 chucks (including the one on it), a faceplate and a magnetic faceplate! Ignore the 300tdi Flywheel and clutch, and the Rover V8 Flywheel underneath it, I got bored moving them about and need to find them a proper home...
 
More detailed pics of the various bits:

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The adjustable feat have pads underneath them that have aluminium ID tags on them, I forgot to take a close up pic but I beleive they are meant to be an isolation damper.

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I'm loving that you have the yale lock fitted to the door. Mine had a large hole that was obviously sized for the barrel of said lock.

Nice that you have the cross slide with T slots and an angle plate so you will be able to do small milling jobs.

Good to have both the fixed and travelling steadies and a few chucks.

I forsee many happy hours at the wire wheel cleaning old iron :)
 
A good degrease, followed by wire brush session then a soak in heated Bilt Hamber De-ox-C with regular sessions with a brass wire brush tends to bring most steel up well I find...the smaller bits go in my heated ultrasonic cleaner and some surplas stainless coffee pots filled with De-ox-C...
 
Hum, I'm wondering if I have another box somewhere with bits in, because I could have sworn I had a set of change wheels...
 
Good selection of stuff there. You are going to have fun. Don't know if you have used UB stuff their degreaser is really good.
If you need change wheels there is a guy on e bay who custom makes delrin ones, very good.
Having at least one in the train helps quieten it down a bit, and is a potentially handy "mechanical fuse" so if you crash it the plastic one is likely to strip before any other damage gets out of hand :)
One of the intermediate gears from the factory should be a fibre job, if it is still with it.
 
Good selection of stuff there. You are going to have fun. Don't know if you have used UB stuff their degreaser is really good.
If you need change wheels there is a guy on e bay who custom makes delrin ones, very good.
Having at least one in the train helps quieten it down a bit, and is a potentially handy "mechanical fuse" so if you crash it the plastic one is likely to strip before any other damage gets out of hand :)
One of the intermediate gears from the factory should be a fibre job, if it is still with it.

This is in part why I'm confused, I could have sworn I had a set of large diameter fibre gear wheels and was a bit surprised that they didn't come out of either of the two boxes of bits. I'm now scratching my head trying to think where they could be...

Potentially in one of my Auxiliary Storage Units* here:

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*AKA

1: Alice
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2: Ruby
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Or...

3: Big Blue
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I'm hoping Ruby, Ruby will be the least full...

Note to self; you really need a 40ft Iso-container, and to get on with the other projects...
 
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As for de-greaser, I've got 20 litres of Jizer, and then 5 litres of Bilt Hamber Surfex-HD concentrate too...failing that; heating oil...
 
This is in part why I'm confused, I could have sworn I had a set of large diameter fibre gear wheels and was a bit surprised that they didn't come out of either of the two boxes of bits. I'm now scratching my head trying to think where they could be...

Potentially in one of my Auxiliary Storage Units* here:

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*AKA

1: Alice
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2: Ruby
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Or...

3: Big Blue
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I'm hoping Ruby, Ruby will be the least full...

Note to self; you really need a 40ft Iso-container, and to get on with the other projects...
I used to have a few of those, one disguised as a horsebox !
 
The pump arrived...I'm glad that I only spent £8 on it...rather a lot of painted plastic to look pretty in pictures! Still, it was only £8...
 
Decided to order a ready made pendant controller for the VFD from 'Thegubbs' (Gavin) on ebay after discussing my set up with him, he's included with it his notes on hooking one up to a Siemens Micromaster 420 Inverter VFD as he's done a few. That will get me running quickest and llow me a more time to figure out my eventual solution.

Also ran my Arduino idea past my mate, who immediately pointed me towards something else entirely that he is using right now for one of his work projects, it's much cheaper and comes complete with a 4.3" touch screen...He's really up for creating an adaptive controller so this could get interesting!
 
@Sideways Can you recall what size box you used to space your motor out off the mounting brackets? I have the day off and was going to go pop out for some UC to make the extended brackets for the feet and will try to pick some box to make up some spacers too.
 
It was something on hand for making replacement tablesaw fences so v heavy gauge.
I think from memory it would be 40mm external in the small dimension.
In the later L5A Harrison chose to stand the 2 cast motor brackets off the lathe bade with stubby cylindrical spacers, but they also added slots in the base cabinet so you could move the brackets together or apart.
If you do it as I did on the L5, you do have to be careful with bolt placement because tightening a nut inside the end of a rectangular tube gives very little swing for the spanner. Keep the holes as near the end of the tube as you can and a wide tube 80x40 is easier than a 4040 square section.

Couple of shots below of solving the same problem for the L5A after swapping the motor.
With a different spindle height the modern motor still needs tube.
As the standoffs when I got mine were a stack of washers with a bead of weld to keep them together, I made new ones about 40mm dia and about 20mm thick.

I needed the lathe to fix the lathe so temp standoffs were offcuts of 25mm mdf
It is all about getting the spindle in the middle of the oval hole at the position where your belts pull tight.
I increased the size of the drive pulley as I had a 4 pole motor, this meant changing the belt lengths (to the nearest standard length) so there is often trial and error and need to buy a second set of belts when you figure out your mistakes.

My motor was delivered with a broken foot, so another thing to fix.
Mag drills and motorcycle scissor jacks are great !



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The other option of course is to just use the box as a spacer and through bolt. I found when I took the old motor off it was held in place with plain old coach bolts!

In further developments I have had an ebay offer accepted on a development board with touch screen display as recommened by Herbert, he's already got ideas on how to hook it up to my VFD through its onboard RS485 Serial port. This is the device in question: https://www.rapidonline.com/st-stm3...board-stm32f7-with-onboard-stm32f746g-75-0766

Now to find suitable linear input devices and rpm sensor...

Oh and a message just landed to say my PEnadant controller has just been delivered down in Kent, so I might be able to do some bench test runs over the weekend :D
 
Urgh...why is it some things are never quite what they seem.... My supposed Single to 3Phase Siemens Inverter VFD from a 'specialist' on ebay isn't, the model number on the label on it says it is, but when you pop the covers off the front to wire it up you find:

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Popping the fan off at the bottom to check what's going on inside and:

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....That there has never been an L3

So this is a single to single unit.

The seller still has 7 identical ones listed, but has said they don't have any to send out to replace it. Grrrrrr.....
 
Annoying.

Just initiate a return through the ebay returns process. That will drive them to respond to a timetable and ensure that you get a full refund and prepaid return shipping if they want it back.

If the seller is that incompetent you don't want to be buying from them in the first place so full refund is the way to go.
 
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