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So you’re still focused on the easy target of taxing earnings rather than taxing the avoiders?
No of course the avoiders should be taxed. The tories actually ran down HMRC as part of their "efficiency building" austerity program.
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Edit. I seem to recall that you once stood for election.
Paper candidate in local elections. Was actually Chatsworth constituency i.e one of poshest estates in UK, which was good for a laugh. I got more votes than previously, about 80 ISTR
I guess that explains why you are more focused on ideology than results.
No ideology needed to see what has to be done about these things.
 
Your daughter has my fullest admiration.

I think the comment about 'children's education being wrecked' is quite correct, but has been taken out of context.

It didn't infer that transferring from a private school to a comprehensive school would mean inferior teaching, but because, in their spiteful haste to impose VAT on private school fees from January 2025 rather than at the start of the next academic year in September 2025, the children whose parents can't afford the increased fees, will need a school place in January 2025, half-way through the academic year, when they might well be taking GCSEs or A Levels.

Their parents, through taxes have already paid for a place at a state school and by not taking up those places, that's helped to fund schools, so expecting them to pay 20% VAT on fees is taking 'another bite of the cherry'. Under the Education Act, the Local Authority, and by extension, the Government, has a statutory duty to provide such places. As was predicted, thousands of parents who can't afford to pay the increase are applying for places in State Schools, for which the government has made no provision.

Starmer/Reeves have ludicrously said that the VAT gained will fund 6,500 additional teachers.

It's nonsense - it was a dogmatic ill conceived act of spite - nothing more.

Many smaller private schools, including special needs, will close as they won't be able to absorb the VAT and parents won't be able to pay, and there are no places for the children in State Schools. Scandalously, parents have been asked to provide evidence they can no longer afford private school fees to secure a place at a state school.

An email sent out by Buckinghamshire council showed a mother being told her daughter had been rejected by two local secondary schools because “they are full”. She was then asked to prove her financial situation in order for her daughter to be considered for another school in the area. The mother, who asked not to be named, had applied for a place at two schools via the council’s online portal amid fears she could be priced out of her daughter’s private school by the Government's VAT raid

The email from Buckinghamshire council said: “Unfortunately we cannot offer any places at your preferred school/s as they are full”. The email continued: “In this circumstance, we would normally advocate that [the child] should remain at their current school. However, if you can provide evidence that you can no longer finance the independent school fees, please advise and we can make a local authority non-preference allocation.”

Councils must not ask for parents’ financial status:

All children in England between the ages of five and 16 are legally entitled to a free place at a state school. The Government’s school admissions code also states that in some cases, local authorities may seek supplementary information from parents if schools are oversubscribed.

However, the code states that councils must not ask for information relating to a family’s financial status, criminal convictions, language ability, disabilities or medical conditions. Buckinghamshire council’s website claims it has received a “large number of applications” for schools in Aylesbury and High Wycombe, and that schools are currently oversubscribed. Data from the council show that just five state secondary schools out of a total 38 in Buckinghamshire had places available for Year 7 students at the latest count in July, while only four had spaces for pupils in Year 8 and three in Year 9.

It comes amid concerns that some local councils could become swamped with applications if parents are priced out by fee increases as a result of the decision to add VAT at the standard rate of 20% VAT to private school fees from Jan 1 2025. Estimates drawn up by the Institute for Fiscal Studies predicting that up to 40,000 private school children could be forced out under the plans.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/06/parents-asked-prove-afford-private-fees-buckinghamshire/#:~:text=Parents have been asked to,because “they are full

Most private schools are small and many cater for children with special needs - they're not like Eton, Harrow or Westminster.

Most of those who send children to private schools are aspirational working class parents, making sacrifices to give their children a better start in life. It isn't simply about the quality of teaching, but the ethos of the school. No disruptive behaviour, respect for the teachers, children who want to learn and parents who support them, and to support the teachers too.

And no truancy either, which doesn't just affect those who are absent, but other pupils due to teachers spending extra time in trying to bring absentees back up to speed. In State schools across the academic year 2023/24, 20.7% of pupil enrolments missed 10% or more of their possible sessions and are therefore identified as persistently absent. By school type, the persistent absence rate across the academic year 2023/24 was:
  • 15.2% in state-funded primary schools
  • 26.7% in state-funded secondary schools
  • 37.6% in state-funded special schools
Maybe if the Government spent more time and effort in dealing with the epidemic of absenteeism in State schools wayward kids would get a better start in life. Much of this is down irresponsible parenting which starts are primary school age. A new report has found that 50% of parents think the toilet training task isn't solely up to them, with teacher saying they're more like babysitters than teachers.

Teachers are having to spend many hours helping young children who arrive at schools in nappies, with almost a quarter of children not toilet trained by the time they start school. The report revealed that 24% of kids in this age group are not toilet trained, while 37% are unable to dress independently. Staff also reported that 39% of children in Reception struggle to hold a pencil, 25% do not have basic language skills and 28% of kids ‘incorrectly use books’ – for example, they swipe or tap them as if using a tablet.

Strewth.

At age 3 my kids and grandkids were 'potty trained' and by age 5, knew their = names and addresses, knew the alphabet, could recognise letters, knew the names of colours, could count to 100, dress and tie their shoelaces, knew the names of shapes, could tell the time, could hold a knife fork and spoon, pencils and crayons. That's not a boast and has nothing to do with whether parents are skint or well-heeled - it's about responsible parenting.
I wonder how many parents of children who attend private school have the same issues regarding nappies at 5 years old etc etc that you've listed above?

One of my daughters at three years old could actually read simple words as she understood the phonetics which I'd taken the time to teach her. The other daughter wasn't much different. It's all about parenting.

Before attacking parents who pay to send their children to private schools the government should use them as an example of how it should be done and not vilified for doing so.
However, parents don't need money in order to give their children a head start in life...it only needs them to understand the protocols of behaviour and discipline and pass this on to their offspring before attending school.

It's little wonder that parents will do without many material goods in order to send their children to private schools and this bunch pirates want to take that away from them.
I remember Raynor calling Tories scum...I think if that's the case it was the kettle calling the pot. If she's got class I'll juggle soot!
 
Whilst I recall pictures of Leyland workers in 70s sleeping on the back seats of half made cars on the production line and the antics of Red Robbo I think the demise of the British Car industry can be traced further back - to a tax system that favoured the production of narrow bore long stroke side valve engines whilst other countries were producing the wide bore overhead valve shorter stroke and higher revving engines we now all use today - going to prove, once again, there is no situation a politician cannot make worse.
One little known fact about a lot of the Leyland strikes is that they were called at the request of BL management when, for example, incoming parts were severely delayed.
 
One little known fact about a lot of the Leyland strikes is that they were called at the request of BL management when, for example, incoming parts were severely delayed.
I have no idea whether or not this is true - but why would the unions agree to strike, take the blame, and lose out on normal pay.

I assume if they were unable to work through lack of parts they would still get paid - drink tea/play cards instead.
 
I have no idea whether or not this is true - but why would the unions agree to strike, take the blame, and lose out on normal pay.

I assume if they were unable to work through lack of parts they would still get paid - drink tea/play cards instead.
The PA of the BL MD used to work for me.
 
Look up his attitude to cyclists in London and the way he flaunted his success
Atitude to cyclists. ? ..no attitude at all from the quick Google. I'm all in favour of making them use the roads responsibly and preferably not use the pavements.

Flaunted his success ? Doesn't bother me one way or another. He built up a business, worked his socks off, gave employment to loads of people. Gets my vote.
 
Atitude to cyclists. ? ..no attitude at all from the quick Google. I'm all in favour of making them use the roads responsibly and preferably not use the pavements.

Flaunted his success ? Doesn't bother me one way or another. He built up a business, worked his socks off, gave employment to loads of people. Gets my vote.
Your happy for someone to park his Rolls Royce blocking the road just to water people off? His anti cyclist antics are renown.
There quite a correlation between anti cyclist rhetoric and irate person tendencies.
 
I don't see the link, TBH. If UK workers were on minimum wage and the Polish workers were on minimum wage, are you saying that the farmers sacked all the UK workers ?
They employ seasonal workers for harvest, instead of paying locals they paid the same to Poles but could charge the Poles to sleep in the sheds and so get back most of the wages for almost nothing
 
Ask Jacob how many votes he got.
I was a local election "paper candidate" as I said. Google it if you don't know what it means.
Just a volunteer for the cause with no chance or desire to win.
In the event I got 60 votes in a tiny but extremely tory ward.
Quite interesting thing to do as I did get about having to canvass and get signatures for my application, which involved a lot of door knocking and conversations.
I didn't bother knocking on the Chatsworth door as I guessed the Duke would not be in.
With hindsight I wish I had - but it was a last minute thing all round.
My grandson was doing the same in another Derbyshire constituency and I got more votes than him!
 
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He's a clip of the article:

"A plumbing company will introduce a mandatory requirement for all staff to have received a Covid-19 vaccine and will fire staff who refuse without a valid reason. From 1 January, any employee of Pimlico Plumbers who has not received the vaccination will have their employment with the company terminated, unless they have a legitimate health reason as to why they can’t receive the vaccine".

I don't have a problem with that, but just note for a moment that he refers to 'his staff' and 'their employment'. I'll touch on that below.

As to 'no jab no job' during the pandemic, where tradesmen were going from house to house in the course of their work visiting often vulnerable householders in their homes, there was a grave risk that they could infect customers, with possible fatal consequences. It became mandatory for care home workers to be vaccinated or dismissed, and some were dismissed.

The very last place I'd have expected anti--vaxxers was the NHS, but sadly, the guy below was just, one of 80,000 who despite working with elderly and vulnerable patients, refused the vaccine. Remember this was a time when relatives who had had the jab, weren't even allowed to visit their own elderly relatives in care homes.

Quote:

"Matt Taylor is a specialist paramedic who has worked through the pandemic treating elderly and vulnerable people in their homes. He hasn't had a Covid-19 vaccination and says he's prepared to lose his job over it. He's one of around 80,000 unvaccinated NHS staff in England being told if they work with patients and don't get a jab by next week they could be moved to a different role or even sacked".

End quote.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60104140

Right, back to the 'odious' Charlie Mullins.

As I said above, he referred to 'his staff' and their 'employment', but he fought his way right up to the Supreme Court and lost, trying to make out that he wasn't an 'employer' - he was merely a 'client' (a 'customer') of self-employed plumbers. Mr Smith, who worked for Pimlico Plumbers for a number of years, had a heart attack and asked to work three days a week rather than five. I'd suggest that most of us would think that a good boss would have some empathy and wouldn't see a problem with that, given that Pimlico had 400 plumbers on its books. Employment law says that in such circumstances, employers should make reasonable adjustments, and though the quality of Smiths work wasn't in questions, Mullins didn't want him to work part-time so he sacked him, except that in Mullins eyes he didn't 'sack him' - he 'dispensed with his services'.

The company exercised “tight administrative control” over Mr Smith and he “undertook to do the work personally”, the Supreme Court said. Pimlico Plumbers required Mr Smith to wear a company branded uniform and to lease one of its vans, which displayed the company's logo and was equipped with a GPS tracker. Mr Smith also had to work a minimum number of hours per week.

If you really were 'self-employed' you'd be able to pick and choose your jobs, decide what to charge, what hours to work, what van you used, what clothing you wore, what vehicle you used, whether you lease or bought it, what geographical area you covered, when you took leave for holidays, etc.

The Supreme Court ruled that though Pimlico Plumbers classed Mr Smith as self-employed, he was in fact a worker, in a landmark case for the gig economy. The UK’s highest court upheld the Court of Appeal’s decision after a further appeal from Pimlico Plumbers which claimed that Gary Smith, who worked at the company for six years, was self-employed.

Rebecca Hilsenrath, chief executive of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, hailed the judgment as “one of the biggest decisions ever made by the courts on workers’ rights”.

“If you wear the uniform, if you drive the branded vehicle, if you only work for one business, you are employed. That means you are entitled to the appropriate protections and adjustments which go with the job, to enable you to work safely and productively. Everyone has the right to a healthy working environment, and to that end businesses need to recognise their duties to their workers.”

The case centred on Gary Smith, from Kent, who worked for Pimlico Plumbers between August 2005 and April 2011. He suffered a heart attack in January 2011 and later sought to work three days per week instead of five, as he had done previously.

Pimlico Plumbers refused to grant Mr Smith’s request and took away his branded van, which he had hired from the company. Mr Smith claims he was unfairly dismissed in May 2011.

Jonathan Bartley, co-leader of the Green Party, said the decision was a victory for workers’ rights. “The bogus use of self-employed contracts in the gig-economy has seen countless workers left without basic rights like decent pay, sick and holiday leave and, most importantly, job security,” he said.

“Pimlico Plumbers must now do the right thing and end its use of self-employment contracts altogether.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38931211

He's since sold the business to an American firm:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58632984

Whether they're any better is anyone's guess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimlico_Plumbers_Ltd_v_Smith

There are those who believe he's a 'self-made millionaire', a 'rags to riches East End boy made good', a success story.

Certainly the Tories did - he was awarded the OBE in 2014 for 'services to plumbing'.

I think he probably wrote his own press release:

"Mr Mullins, a campaigner for state-funded apprenticeships"
What??? How many apprentices did he ever employ - none - not one, because he was he wasn't an 'employer'.

But wait - in the next breath, he says his is an' employer':

'Mr Mullins, whose company employs 260 people with a turnover of £24mill'....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ded-obe-for-services-to-plumbing-9950689.html

Others may disagree, but to my mind, he's Just a spiv living on his wits - a classic example of the term 'you can take the boy out of the gutter, but you can't take the gutter out of the boy.
 
No.

How would you limit population growth?
...and answer came there non!
Occurred to me that advocates of population control should set an example themselves.
Quite easy to do and not necessary for them to throw themselves off cliffs or anything.
Just get themselves sterilised, and all other male members of their family. Not so easy with women as their ovaries are less accessible.
Can be DIY - ask a sheep farmer, it involves elastic bands apparently.
Come on chaps - set the ball rolling! (no pun intended).
They won't do it of course as it's a basic principle of right wing "thought" that everything is always somebody else's fault, especially if they are poor, immigrant, etc.
 
You mean better off parents being able to buy privileged education for their offspring?
Wouldn't matter but it turns into a fast track for posh idiots getting into positions of power and influence, particularly in politics, law, finance, as we all know to our cost.
They also get fast tracked into the arts, but that has fewer societal repercussions.
My 3 kids 100% comprehensive ending up with 1 PhD, 1 MA, 1 BA 2nd
Forgot to add - two extreme examples of "posh idiots getting into positions of power and influence" both ex Eton and Bullingdon Club, are Cameron and Johnson.
They gave us Brexit.
Cameron also gave us the bonfire of the red tape leading to the bonfire of Grenfell Tower.
Two national tragedies/disasters within a few years of each other.
Public schooling should be a bar to public office!
 
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