woodieallen
Established Member
Yes and look what they've managed to screw up in that short time. As ey_tony says, just look at Kneeler's ratings now.
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woodieallen
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I thought it had been replaced by the wish to become yet another 'influencer' ?
niall Y
Established Member
You seem to be fixated on the undeserving poor. There will always be those who play the system but this shouldn't be used as an excuse to dismiss the the rest. This main causes are the exorbitant cost of housing, low wages and inflation.
The poor I know, don't have foreign holidays or holiday at all. Though having said that it is infinitely cheaper to holiday abroad than in this country. And ,as another example of crazy economics, there was even some bright spark who proved it was cheaper to do his shopping in Poland, which included the flights , than it was to do the equivalent shop in this country.
As for smart phones, they are now more of a necessity than a luxury. If you don't have a computer or access to one then they are a must have, So many more things are now dependent on them including banking Even if you are out of work and need access the quickly changing job market they are a must have. You can even top up your electricity using one if there are no outlets in your area. The sad truth is that with the demise of the high street ,and the cost savings of many institutions many things ate now only accessible via the internet.
The poor I know, don't have foreign holidays or holiday at all. Though having said that it is infinitely cheaper to holiday abroad than in this country. And ,as another example of crazy economics, there was even some bright spark who proved it was cheaper to do his shopping in Poland, which included the flights , than it was to do the equivalent shop in this country.
As for smart phones, they are now more of a necessity than a luxury. If you don't have a computer or access to one then they are a must have, So many more things are now dependent on them including banking Even if you are out of work and need access the quickly changing job market they are a must have. You can even top up your electricity using one if there are no outlets in your area. The sad truth is that with the demise of the high street ,and the cost savings of many institutions many things ate now only accessible via the internet.
But you need to go and get a degree in influencing first !
ey_tony
Established Member
Why should they be given a chance when they clearly withheld their plans of what they proposed to do until after the election?
I suspect that had they indicated their plans before the election they definitely wouldn't have won even with the Tories as bad as they were.
There are so many glaring flaws in their proposed plans, that they don't appear to be capable of running a bath let alone the UK. The man is out of his depth.
Blackswanwood
Still Learning
Do you really think the Tories were open about what they really planned to do Tony?
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
Who knows what their plans are? they don't know themselves!
Labour spelled out their plans in great detail and got far more votes in 2017 and 2019 than Starmer 2024 historically low turnout.
Starmer was just lucky that everybody had realised the tories were well past their buy by date.
Corbyn brought out the vote twice with highest turnout for Labour in 25 years, but tories hadn't yet collapsed, shot themselves in the feet with Truss, Brexit etc
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Cooper
Established Member
I filled mine for 23 24 in July and had to look up the payments and multiple by 13. I’ve always thought that HMRC was persecuting me, now I know they are!!
ey_tony
Established Member
Do you honestly believe that Starmer et al would have won the election if he'd indicated that Labour would cease giving the pensioners the winter fuel payment?Who knows what their plans are? they don't know themselves!
Labour spelled out their plans in great detail and got far more votes in 2017 and 2019 than Starmer 2024 historically low turnout.
Starmer was just lucky that everybody had realised the tories were well past their buy by date.
Corbyn brought out the vote twice with highest turnout for Labour in 25 years, but tories hadn't yet collapsed, shot themselves in the feet with Truss, Brexit etc
Worse still they may even withdraw the single person occupancy council tax reduction or possibly remove the free bus pass! Could you really see the pensioners voting for those cuts had they known?
Let's just hope it's not a harsh winter otherwise we'll have possibly thousands of people dying and millions of elderly people struggling to keep warm while people arriving on boats who can afford to pay criminal gangs to get them here. They have put nothing into the country and travelled through several safe countries before arriving here, will be given warm rooms and be fed in hotels up and down the country.
I can't wait until the May elections and then we'll see just how popular Starmer's Labour are then.
AJB Temple
Finely figured
^^^ This may be right, however I suspect Starmer, Reeves and Rayner probably thought they would have a honeymoon period where the population believed the £22 billion largely imaginary surprise black hole and would accept labour blaming the tories endlessly. Removing the winter fuel allowance was so quick that it looks calculated in advance and therefore disingenuous. The fact that he needs someone else to pay for his wife's clothes and his attendance at football matches is a very foolish own goal that makes him seem out of touch. Paying off the greedy train drivers with their ridiculous working practices was plain silly.
Would anyone put Starmer in charge of a large commercial business? I very much doubt it. As for Rayner - no chance. Likewise Reeves.
The tenants rights charter is rapidly backfiring as landlords are issuing s.21 notices like confetti before the deadline, the main result of which is that local governments have an increasing burden on social housing for the least desirable tenants. It was naive and inept. Seriously rich people by and large have already departed (or at the very least made their assets depart) for more welcoming havens. The smart ones are discreet and don't say a word to the media. Tax consultants have already raked it in a while ago.
Now Starmer is going to deal with the dinghy immigrant crisis by taking guidance from Italy. This is daft too as the circumstances are radically different. The Italians actually have some balls. They can see a tsunami wave of trouble heading across the Med and are not messing about. They are certainly not providing a RNLI taxi service.
The Tories deserved to be booted out, but the electorate gave a big signal (perhaps of resigned apathy) to all politicians, with a turnout of under 60% overall and slim majorities in many seats. Labour benefited from pointless reform diluting the tory vote, and the liberals getting a few seats for once despite hardly anyone being able to name he clown leader and absolutely no one being able to name even a handful of liberal MPs. As a nation we deserve better than this collective shower.
I would prefer a coalition solution of power sharing, and bans on politicians taking freebies etc (and pay them properly) - but this is not our culture. Confrontational blame politics is not constructive.
Oh, and Andrew Bailey was useless and ineffectual at the FCA - which twerp appointed him as Governor of the Bank of England? That needs dealing with pronto.
Would anyone put Starmer in charge of a large commercial business? I very much doubt it. As for Rayner - no chance. Likewise Reeves.
The tenants rights charter is rapidly backfiring as landlords are issuing s.21 notices like confetti before the deadline, the main result of which is that local governments have an increasing burden on social housing for the least desirable tenants. It was naive and inept. Seriously rich people by and large have already departed (or at the very least made their assets depart) for more welcoming havens. The smart ones are discreet and don't say a word to the media. Tax consultants have already raked it in a while ago.
Now Starmer is going to deal with the dinghy immigrant crisis by taking guidance from Italy. This is daft too as the circumstances are radically different. The Italians actually have some balls. They can see a tsunami wave of trouble heading across the Med and are not messing about. They are certainly not providing a RNLI taxi service.
The Tories deserved to be booted out, but the electorate gave a big signal (perhaps of resigned apathy) to all politicians, with a turnout of under 60% overall and slim majorities in many seats. Labour benefited from pointless reform diluting the tory vote, and the liberals getting a few seats for once despite hardly anyone being able to name he clown leader and absolutely no one being able to name even a handful of liberal MPs. As a nation we deserve better than this collective shower.
I would prefer a coalition solution of power sharing, and bans on politicians taking freebies etc (and pay them properly) - but this is not our culture. Confrontational blame politics is not constructive.
Oh, and Andrew Bailey was useless and ineffectual at the FCA - which twerp appointed him as Governor of the Bank of England? That needs dealing with pronto.
niemeyjt
Established Member
Well, another small example - a For Sale board has popped up outside the (former) rental next door to my daughter.
To be fair, I am not sure if it is as a result of the Government's Renters Reform bill or if it is as a result of the Government's changes to CGT.
Either way, that is one less rental. You cannot repeal the Law of Unintended consequences
There is no situation a politician cannot make worse - particularly when they are as stupid as the current bunch.
To be fair, I am not sure if it is as a result of the Government's Renters Reform bill or if it is as a result of the Government's changes to CGT.
Either way, that is one less rental. You cannot repeal the Law of Unintended consequences
There is no situation a politician cannot make worse - particularly when they are as stupid as the current bunch.
An alternative view is that the UK (like the US) is simply a nation in decline, on a trajectory that started at least 70 years ago, and that no matter what policies fiddling with this or that, power and wealth is moving elsewhere in the world anyway.
On that basis, it looks like we're going to have to put up without winter fuel allowances, with ever-increasing potholes in our roads, poor housing, with infrastructure that doesn't work properly, with huge waiting lists on the NHS, and so on.
To my mind, it just comes down to mitigating the effects of decline, and a good start would be to recognise the state we're in and stop making ridiculous mistakes like brexit, which are based largely on nostalgia and national pride and take little account of our reality.
Very pessimistic, I know.
The Guardian...again. So blatant with the bias journalism, Jacob.
Brexit, prior to the pandemic, was unfortunate in that it diverted the governments away from the issues, the markets closed down, travel was stopped. Not a good moment for sorting out the Brexit deals etc., andit was always public knowledge that Brexit would take several years to sort out; the UK having financial commitments to the EU to settle and allowing the EU to get over its strop that anyone would want to leave the EU which put us at the start of the pandemic.
The new Covid variants appear to be weaker than those in 2019/20 and we are seeing the light of recovery as far as the recession is concerned, so we may get some stabilty in the next 10 years and we will be able to see the gains from the end of our financial obligations and the growth of trade, both with the EU and the rest of the world. The future, to me, looks better than it would have done if we'd have stayed in the floundering EU.
A little pessimistic, perhaps. To be honest, if you look back over the last 70 years, we done very well and all I see is a better future than the past. My life is in its final stages but I'm confident that my offspring, and their offspring, will find life worth the effort. Because that's all it takes, in the end, effort.
I think there are quite a few countries/states in the world that are in rapid decline. I don't think the US or the UK is in that group. China and Russia, perhaps?
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
Bias? The Guardian is very middle of the road. Campaigned fiercely against Corbyn for instance. Has supported Israel very loyally until just recently when even J Freedland has started to have doubts about genocide.
Also it's the only mainstream paper not owned by mega-rich tax-dodging non-doms with an agenda of their own.
For bias look first at the Telegraph, Sun, D Mail etc.
Brexit was a disaster, no good will come of it even in the distant future currently forecast by the few remaining supporters, and the EU will go from strength to strength.
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
No of course not and I didn't say that.
He might have done even better with a straightforward tax-raising socialist agenda as per Corbyn, according to the figures.
Here are the figures
2001 Blair 10.7 million
2005 Blair 9.5
2010 Brown 8.6
2015 Mliband 9.3
2017 Corbyn 12.9
2019 Corbyn 10.3
2024 Starmer 9.7
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KeenToLearn
Established Member
Economists warning on worsening effects of Brexit- your comments please all you pro Brexiteers?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd988p00z1no
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd988p00z1no
ey_tony
Established Member
Right now the EU is in turmoil and set to get even worse especially with regard their disastrous migration policies so I think being outside of the EU right now is the best place.
The problem is that we don't have politicians with enough guts to stand up to the mandarins of the EU and fight our corner which is what was lacking during the negotiations.
Anyone listening to the Remain supporters would think that the UK is some third rate country when in fact if the UK restricted EU access to our markets many of their industries would go into recession.
The vast majority of politicians of this country couldn't be trusted run a bath as I've said many times...if we had someone with decent leadership qualities then things could be very different.
If people are happy for the UK to gravitate to being a satellite state in a federal Europe which is the EU's ultimate goal with governance from Brussels or wherever then by all means rejoin the EU, otherwise grow some whatsits and go it alone.
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
It's even more lacking now we are out!
No direct influence at all, no seat at the table.
They need us, we need them.
