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Don't forget the multiverse.

And here's a thought. What if our universe was actually the size of a grain of sand on a beach somewhere in a much larger universe.

But this always blows my mind...

 
That is why we have so many theories, there is so much we don't know or understand but at the same time we like to think we know everything so a theory fills this gap. This then starts the quest to disprove a given theory and replace it with a newer theory, one of the latest theories is the Boson particle. If this actually exist then it can explain something else we have not as yet fully understood and so we start to stack the cards until the Boson is proved wrong and the whole stack of cards collapses and someone else comes up with a new theory and it keeps all the scientist content and happy in there next quest.


If you can create everything then hiding from what you have created should be easy as there is a lot of universe out there.
Trying to explain something which seems impossible by positing the existence of something even more impossible seems like something a crazy person would do.
 
Don't forget the multiverse.

And here's a thought. What if our universe was actually the size of a grain of sand on a beach somewhere in a much larger universe.

But this always blows my mind...


Great little video. And here I am wondering what to have for tea.
 
Hmm... In the absence of any real purpose to life, we come up with them. This time next year, we'll be millionaires. We really need an extension. A new shirt or two. Collect an example of every button made between 1872 and 1875.

What I like about the Church is that at least it acknowledges our inevitable death. Death's not good for marketing, it's not really a lifestyle choice for most. Between us and death, the Church provides a welcoming beauty, death becomes beautiful. Nonsense of course, but at least it's acknowledged.

It's more-or-less absent from the little projects created for us by our culture, a culture in denial. There's little profit in it. But those projects are religions, people dedicate their lives to them, the primary one being acquisition of wealth and things.


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Only the stupid laugh at religious beliefs, then go shopping.

And btw, Karl Marx agrees with you, he saw religion as the opiate of the masses. I think we all need some opiate to fend off reality.
I will defend anyone's right to believe in a god but when it comes to religions, they should all carry a "For Entertainment Purposes Only" label and be treated as such...for entertainment purposes only.
There are several billion people across the world who believe in some god or other...let just one of them step forward with irrefutable proof that a god exists or has ever existed and I will change my opinion immediately.
 
Science over the last few hundred years has provided an explanation for much that would have seemed miraculous or the work of some divine authority or supreme being. Some believe the currently inexplicable will in the future be resolved through rational analysis.

The scientific community in their search for an explanation to all, seem to have adopted the Conan-Doyle approach "once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Do scientists believe in the divine or rational??

I am unconvinced by concepts of dark matter and big bang, no matter how many scientists with brains the size of planets tell me this is the answer. We simply don't yet know!

Assuming we and all around us are the product of a "divine" begs the question "who, what or where is the divine". How or who was responsible for the creation of he, she, or it. Is faith an absolute belief in that which has no foundation in rational thought or evidence.
We advance understanding farther each day. At one point in time particle physics was completely unknown. Not so long ago an unknown in physics was attributed to an unknown particle which was named the Higgs Boson and a lot of people, physicists included thought it wasn’t real. Just a short time ago Higgs Boson were created and measured. I think the same process will continue indefinitely until the last hiding place for the unknown is removed
 
Is it not our constant striving to "grow the economy " that has got us into this climate mess in the first place. Change is essential for our survival but that will involve reducing the wealth of the few who seem to own everything. If everyone had a less materialistic lifestyle but were not in poverty and the maximum wealth any individual could have was capped so they then needed to give employee's shares in the company and invest more heavily to create more jobs then the country would start to work as one because working now offers a future. To achieve this would require political change so no one party runs the country, instead all parties are represented.
The problem of capping the wealth someone can have is that there is no longer a benefit to increasing beyond the limit so there would likely be significantly less chances of employment for those unable or unwilling to start there own company! A big start would be to close the doors that international companies use the smuggle pre tax profits out the country and give tax breaks for companies that invest in there employees!
 
And here's a thought. What if our universe was actually the size of a grain of sand on a beach somewhere in a much larger universe.
And ponder this - one of the single grains of sand you're walking on on that beach contains more atoms (roughly 2x10 to the 19th) than there are stars in the universe (very approx 10 to the 12th according to the ESA). Then consider how many grains of sand are on that beach - and all the beaches and deserts in the world. That's an awful lot of atoms.
 
No it's the right who think socialism is something special and somehow a threat to society. Socialists just think of it as normal - it's how society has to be run.

The idea that welfare should be the responsibility of us all, is older than Christianity.

Perhaps because they didn't implement it, whereas Labour did, in 1948, largely thanks to Aneurin Bevan

A smaller behemoth would lead to a worse service. It's grown firstly because we can afford it and secondly because amazing advances in the science tend also to be expensive

There is no alternative and it is very successful. Can you point to a country anywhere which does not have a large degree of socialism in it methods?

Complete nonsense - shorter working hours means more employment for other people. Higher pay means more spending and benefits businesses. Austerity just didn't work, as we all now know.

Not only that - many object to his support for the Israeli genocidal regime, purging the left of the party (i.e. Palestine sympathisers) and his attacks on party democracy



I half agree with that except that bring back the tories would be a major disaster, as they have demonstrated over the years. They became a Monster Raving Loony Party circus, with Johnson and Truss as the biggest clowns, austerity and Brexit as their toxic legacy.
You do spout some twaddle!
Just looking so far at this load of totalitarian rubbish that purports to be a Labour government, do you really believe that Starmer et al would have won the election with such conviction if they'd be open and honest about what their true intentions and plans were?

What's all this about banning smoking in beer gardens for instance? I'm an ex smoker so I am not empathetic towards smokers in the least and don't advise anyone taking up the habit but if that is their choice then it's up to them. It's total rubbish and lies to say that smokers are costing the NHS. It has been known for decades that the tax on cigarettes more than covers the cost of treatment for cigarettes on the NHS. It's nothing more than totalitarianism and it will only get worse with this lot.
I don't drink alcohol as such and rarely visit pubs so it won't affect me but I can only see it seriously affecting the pub industry which is already under duress and can only get worse if the no smoking in beer gardens ban is implemented. I can see an awful lot more pubs closing and increased redundancies as a result.

There are plenty of examples of Starmer attacking the Tories regarding even the mention of the withdrawal of pensioner winter fuel payments and his lambasting the costs of energy on the run up to his election and what does he do? He takes the money from pensioner's winter fuel payments and gives it to inflation busting wage rises for doctors and train drivers etc etc etc. He's in hock to the unions and they are going to have their pound of flesh.
He never said anything about hammering the pensioners in his manifesto that's for sure. He's a dishonest hypocrite to say the least.

He's already making overtures to Germany to unpick Brexit.
As for your assertions about shorter working weeks meaning more employment...it may work in your imaginary socialist world but clearly you expose your total and utter lack of understanding of how the real world works.

Unless this proposed four day week is pro-rata, meaning that wages are reduced accordingly then it's only going to serve increase inflation. Taking on more people to do the same job is not going to reduce unemployment as businesses will simply not be able to afford to employ more staff. If they do increase their staffing who do you suppose is going to pay for these extra staff?
The consumer of course and passing on costs to the consumer will increase inflation, which in turn will fuel higher wage demands from other workers and so the cycle will continue. I would thought that someone with your intellect would have understood that!

I always quote the economist Friedrich Hayek...if socialists understood economics then they wouldn't be socialists. How very true!
 
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You do spout some twaddle!
Just looking so far at this load of totalitarian rubbish that purports to be a Labour government, do you really believe that Starmer et al would have won the election with such conviction if they'd be open and honest about what their true intentions and plans were?
Hmm dunno. Not sure what Starmer's true intentions really are.
I suspect he is an old fashioned conservative, keep things as they are, steady as you go, but without the crack-pot ideology which has dominated since Thatcher - which thanks to your hero Hayek by the way; the lunatic economist.
Talking of winning elections - Corbyn has twice gathered more votes than any other leader since 2001 - radical socialist policies are popular.
What's all this about banning smoking in beer gardens for instance? I'm an ex smoker so I am not empathetic towards smokers in the least and don't advise anyone taking up the habit but if that is their choice then it's up to them. It's total rubbish and lies to say that smokers are costing the NHS. It has been known for decades that the tax on cigarettes more than covers the cost of treatment for cigarettes on the NHS. It's nothing more than totalitarianism and it will only get worse with this lot.
Well, why not allow cannabis smoking, drug injections etc? What's the difference?
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He never said anything about hammering the pensioners in his manifesto that's for sure. He's a dishonest hypocrite to say the least.
I agree about that. He lied his way into the leadership for starters
He's already making overtures to Germany to unpick Brexit.
Thats good, but he's very cautious about it. I'd prefer a full frontal approach to rejoining.
As for your assertions about shorter working weeks meaning more employment...it may work in your imaginary socialist world but clearly you expose your total and utter lack of understanding of how the real world works.
The logic is inescapable. Would a diagram help?
Do you think enforced longer hours would increase employment numbers?
Actually it's not that simple because studies show that shorter hours tends to increase productivity.
 
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You do spout some twaddle!
Just looking so far at this load of totalitarian rubbish that purports to be a Labour government, do you really believe that Starmer et al would have won the election with such conviction if they'd be open and honest about what their true intentions and plans were?

What's all this about banning smoking in beer gardens for instance? I'm an ex smoker so I am not empathetic towards smokers in the least and don't advise anyone taking up the habit but if that is their choice then it's up to them. It's total rubbish and lies to say that smokers are costing the NHS. It has been known for decades that the tax on cigarettes more than covers the cost of treatment for cigarettes on the NHS. It's nothing more than totalitarianism and it will only get worse with this lot.
I don't drink alcohol as such and rarely visit pubs so it won't affect me but I can only see it seriously affecting the pub industry which is already under duress and can only get worse if the no smoking in beer gardens ban is implemented. I can see an awful lot more pubs closing and increased redundancies as a result.

There are plenty of examples of Starmer attacking the Tories regarding even the mention of the withdrawal of pensioner winter fuel payments and his lambasting the costs of energy on the run up to his election and what does he do? He takes the money from pensioner's winter fuel payments and gives it to inflation busting wage rises for doctors and train drivers etc etc etc. He's in hock to the unions and they are going to have their pound of flesh.
He never said anything about hammering the pensioners in his manifesto that's for sure. He's a dishonest hypocrite to say the least.

He's already making overtures to Germany to unpick Brexit.
As for your assertions about shorter working weeks meaning more employment...it may work in your imaginary socialist world but clearly you expose your total and utter lack of understanding of how the real world works.

Unless this proposed four day week is pro-rata, meaning that wages are reduced accordingly then it's only going to serve increase inflation. Taking on more people to do the same job is not going to reduce unemployment as businesses will simply not be able to afford to employ more staff. If they do increase their staffing who do you suppose is going to pay for these extra staff?
The consumer of course and passing on costs to the consumer will increase inflation, which in turn will fuel higher wage demands from other workers and so the cycle will continue. I would thought that someone with your intellect would have understood that!

I always quote the economist Friedrich Hayek...if socialists understood economics then they wouldn't be socialists. How very true!
You're so right. Starmer is out of his depth already and I don't think he'll last beyond the next 5 years.
It looks as if he's already rebalancing his support by attracting the unions whilst turning the pensioners away.

Unpicking Brerxit would be a big mistake this far done the line. And it would lose him even more support.


The Tories will come back to unpick Starmer's mismanagement...as usual. It's been a cyclic event for some decades.
And Friedrich Hayek was right.
 
Belief in ‘Creationism’:

USA:


In the US some religious communities have refused to accept naturalistic explanations and tried to counter them.

The term 'creationism' started to become associated with Christian fundamentalist opposition to human evolution and belief in a young Earth in 1929. Several US states passed laws against the teaching of evolution in public schools, as upheld in the Scopes Trial. Evolution was omitted entirely from school textbooks in most of the US until the 1960s. Since then, renewed efforts to introduce teaching creationism in American public schools in the form of Flood geology, creation science, and intelligent design have been consistently held to contravene the constitutional separation of church and state by a succession of legal judgments. (1st Amendment of the Constitution ' which states: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances).

According to a July 2024 Gallup poll, 37% (123 million) of Americans identify as creationist purists, believing that God created humans and everything in the Universe in six days in their current form within the last 10,000 years. Another 34% (113 million), of Americans believe that humans evolved over millions of years with God's guidance, while only 24% (80 million) believe that humans evolved without God's involvement.

So, the population of the USA is 333 million and 76% of them believe that God (their God that is), had, and continues to have, a hand in our existence.

United Kingdom:

Since the development of evolutionary theory by Charles Darwin in England, where his portrait appears on the back of the revised Series E £10 note issued in 2000, significant shifts in British public opinion have occurred. A 2006 survey for the BBC showed that "more than a fifth of those polled were convinced by the creationist argument," a massive decrease from the almost total acceptance of creationism before Darwin published his theory. A 2010 Angus Reid poll found that "In Britain, two-thirds of respondents (68%) side with evolution while less than one-in-five (16%) choose creationism.

At least seven-in-ten respondents in the South of England (70%) and Scotland (75%) believe human beings evolved from less advanced life forms over millions of years." A subsequent 2010 YouGov poll on the origin of humans found that 9% opted for creationism, 12% intelligent design, 65% evolutionary theory and 13% did not know.

The British Humanist Association and leading scientists campaigned to make creationism illegal in state funded schools from 2011 onwards. In 2014 they achieved their goal when the Department for Education updated the funding contracts of Academies and Free Schools to this effect, and at the same time, clarified that creationism being taught as science contravened existing 'British values' requirements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism_by_country
 
Anti-Semite of the Year - 2022 and 2023 ?
That was the Israeli propaganda line which Starmer supported and used against the left. Complete nonsense of course and now somewhat out of fashion as the Israeli right reveal their true colours
 
That was the Israeli propaganda line which Starmer supported and used against the left. Complete nonsense of course and now somewhat out of fashion as the Israeli right reveal their true colours
Yebbut, back to my question, when were these elections I missed that you said Corbyn won?
 
Throughout time humans have sought answers to how they came into existence, and have created Gods from their own imagination, and still do to this day. Believers hold the view that God created humans, and the world over there are monuments that testify to those beliefs. The Acropolis in Greece is a striking example, built five centuries before Christ. Few now believe in those ancient gods that the Greeks worshipped, but they clearly did so back then.

The paradox of belief in God(s):

An omnibenevolent God would want to eliminate evil.
An omnipotent God would be able to eliminate evil.
Yet evil still exists.

God is willing to eliminate evil but not able. Therefore he is impotent.
God is able but not willing. Therefore God is malevolent (lacking goodness).
An omnibenevolent and omnipotent God must not exist.

The definition of 'faith' is an unshakable belief in something without proof or evidence'. Believers will say 'you can't prove God doesn't exist' but that doesn't hold water because the absence of proof isn't proof itself. And if there is a creator who has existed for all time and does today, who is so talented as to have been able to create everything that exists, then how, and by whom, was that creator created?

Unfortunately, despite monotheistic believers claiming that their own religion is one of peace and tolerance, throughout time, their religions have been, and continue to be, a source of intolerance and wickedness. The more devout that believers are, the greater their intolerance is towards non-believers, to the point that in many countries around the world, heresy, and blasphemy carries the death sentence, and did throughout Europe not too long ago.

William Tyndale's translations of the Bible were the first English Scriptures to draw directly from Hebrew and Greek texts, the first English translation to take advantage of the printing press, the first of the new English Bibles of the Reformation. It was taken to be a direct challenge to the hegemony of the Catholic Church and of those laws of England maintaining the Church's position. The work of Tyndale continued to play a key role in spreading Reformation ideas across the English-speaking world. In 1536 he was captured By the Catholic Church for heresy, strangled at the stake and his body burned. He translated the bible into what he called the 'language of the ploughboy' so that ordinary people rather than Latin or Greek scholars could read the bible. He had a profound influence on the English language, more so than Shakespeare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tyndale

The persecution of Galileo:

The Galileo affair began around 1610 and culminated with the trial and condemnation of Galileo by the Roman Catholic Inquisition in 1633. Galileo was prosecuted for holding as true the doctrine of heliocentrism, the astronomical model in which the Earth and planets revolve around the Sun at the centre of the universe.

It wasn't until 1992, that it was reported that the Catholic Church turned towards vindicating Galileo:

"Thanks to his intuition as a brilliant physicist and by relying on different arguments, Galileo, who practically invented the experimental method, understood why only the sun could function as the centre of the world, as it was then known, that is to say, as a planetary system. The error of the theologians of the time, when they maintained the centrality of the Earth, was to think that our understanding of the physical world's structure was, in some way, imposed by the literal sense of Sacred Scripture...."

Good people do good things,
Bad people to bad things,
But to get good people to do bad things - that takes religion.
 
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Can't say I'm particularly interested in ghosts and the supernatural but I do think "churches" in their many varied forms are marvellous and have been the sharp end of civilisation; art, architecture, music, literacy, education, pastoral care, socialism, community business, etc etc.
Also can be the opposite when they get fundamentalist; one minute singing beautiful music, caring for the needy, the next burning witches, attacking non-believers, launching crusades.
 
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