It's going up next week.

[skipdiver]

shall i put it here?


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or here?

went for this plot,you should be able to see the setting out lines
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bobcat ready to go on day 1

mark trimming footing corners by hand
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mark filling apprentice keirans barrow with soil for the skip

end of day 1,footings dug out
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and overspill as skip was full.digger was shut down remotely by hire company by phone,nifty security device

9.30 day two,footing concreted
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blocks and bricks loaded out,early finish as footings still wet

1.5 days later,underground bricks and blocks laid and walls half way up.
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view of door opening.decided to have two 27" FLB doors

where we are at today.up to wallplate.after much deliberation decided to go for lots of natural light in the shape of two 6'x4' windows.sod the burglars.
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[9fingers]

Steve,

Is that a recognised way of doing the pier? it does not seem to be bonded in the the rest of the blockwork.
When I've done piers in the past I've always had problems working out the bond and yours seems a neat way out. Also putting it on the outside saves it getting in the way when fitting out the inside.

Good to See the pics
Bob

 

[skipdiver]

It is bonded with profiles bolted to the wall.Because it was all a bit of a rush,i never had it completely worked out in my head what i wanted.Had two single ones internally last time and they got in the way.I told my mate to build it and i would decide later.Would have been cheaper if i knew where i was putting them at the start as we could have just used brick ties as it went up.Cost me an extra £50.00 for the profiles as there are two single pillars on the back wall but at least i know it's safe.I have a mate who is a roofing contractor and when tiling a garage roof that had been built without pillars,the whole building twisted and racked and collapsed with two of his men on the roof.HSE said it was because there were no pillars in it.

On another note,just popped home for something and a bite to eat.Good job i did as there was two people in my drive with clipboards.Turns out they were planning officers.Someone has complained and they wanted to know what i was building,it's intended use and more crucially,the measurements.It passed with flying colours to the millimetre.Going to put a sign on the roof saying sorry but it's staying put.Got a good idea who reported me so they are off my christmas card list.

 

[Gary]

Got a good idea who reported me so they are off my christmas card list.

I hope it wasn't the neighbour who left you with the attractive view of the unfinished block work on their extension/workshop when they a view a brick wall. :lol:

The wonders of permitted development and the envy of neighbours. Well this is one battle you've won. Workshop is looking good, can't wait to see further installments.

 

[Shultzy]

How come there is blockwork under the bricks in the far right corner? What type of floor are you putting in and I think the DPC is supposed to be 6" above ground level.

 

[skipdiver]

Gary,the neighbour who left me with the unattractive view is the guy i bought my house from.He owned both semi's and rented them out.He put both on the market and took next doors off when i bought this.I could have bought next doors with a ready built workshop but it has been very badly built and was a bit too small.The landlord built that shop next door when he lived there to renovate a Triumph Stag apparently and got it in and out through my garden and into a door which has now been (badly) blocked up.

Shultzy,the blocks under the bricks are 7 newton breeze blocks suitable for underground work.The dpc is on top of the engineering bricks.I am having a concrete sub floor laid on visqueen and sand blinding,followed by a chipboard floating floor.The concrete floor will finish level with the dpc which as you point out is not the correct way of doing things but as there are no regs on these things and i wanted t keep it as low as poss,we decided between us that this was the way to go.My mate Mark knows his onions and assures me everything will be fine.

I could dig out more and get the finished floor the required 150mm down but i don't think it is necessary for my needs.

 

[Shultzy]

I'm surprise at your construction, and I'm sure there are regs.

The normal way of construction for suspended floors is :-

lay 9" thick engineering bricks up to ground level (supports floor joists)
lay concrete sub-floor level with bricks (easier to tamp)
lay two 9" thick courses of bricks and put DPC on top
lay blocks to outside edge
lay floor joists on DPC slightly short of the blocks to stop moisture transfer.

You need to make sure no damp gets to the floor.

 

[skipdiver]

No,there are no regs as it doesn't come under them.You can do anything you want on this kind of building due to the size and distance from the house.I'm quite happy with it.

I wont be putting any floor joists in.Concrete floor overlaid with jablite and v313 board.There will be a dpc under the concrete and a second one under the jablite.My mate knows all the regs by heart and has built everything from a barbie to the local Tesco superstore.At the end of the day it is a workshop and not a dwelling.

 

[OPJ]

Looks like it's coming along well. Your neighbour will soon change his tune once he realises he needs a "favour" from your new workshop! :wink:

 

[Anonymous]

My mate knows all the regs by heart and has built everything from a barbie to the local Tesco superstore

Well it looks like he built the barbie alright. The local Tesco looks like it will be a little small though! :wink:

 

[punkrockdad]

Did the planning chaps measure the inside or outside of the building?

 

[skipdiver]

They never measured anything.The BCO was a girl named Kerry who i know from several jobs i've worked on.She started to measure the building and i said it's exactly 30 sq mts internal and she just stopped measuring.She also said theres no point measuring distance from the house as i can see it's more than 5mts.They asked me what type of roof i was having and i said pitched roof and it will be less than 4mts.They also wanted to know it's intended use,to which i replied workshop and storage.They took some photo's,wrote some stuff on a form and started to leave.I asked them if they were going to arrest me and they just laughed.

I think because she knew i was in the building trade,she obviously concluded that i knew the regs and left it at that.I don't expect to hear any more from them.

When i do the roof,was thinking of putting a sign on it saying STAGE ONE or SORRY FOLKS BUT IT'S STAYING UP.I know it was the couple directly behind me as they were the only ones who asked mate Mark what he was building.They have an absolutely pristine garden and my new shop throws a shadow across it for most of the day now.Oh well,not my problem.

 

[dennis]

Steve

I thought that a building had to be under 30cubic metres not 30square metres not to need building regs hope I am wrong.

Dennis

 

[Tusses]

neighbors hey ! you think yourself lucky - I have 6 sets of next door neighbors :shock: some of them are right busy bodies too !

 

[Tusses]

Steve

I thought that a building had to be under 30cubic metres not 30square metres not to need building regs hope I am wrong.

Dennis

no - its 30 sq m . and officially its the footprint afaik

 

[9fingers]

Steve

I thought that a building had to be under 30cubic metres not 30square metres not to need building regs hope I am wrong.

Dennis

no - its 30 sq m . and officially its the footprint afaik

Actually 30m2 internal floor area

Bob

 

[Anonymous]

.I know it was the couple directly behind me as they were the only ones who asked mate Mark what he was building..

Mark should've said "Three storey gymnasium" that'd have put the wind up em.

:lol:

 

[Tusses]

Steve

I thought that a building had to be under 30cubic metres not 30square metres not to need building regs hope I am wrong.

Dennis

no - its 30 sq m . and officially its the footprint afaik

Actually 30m2 internal floor area

Bob

maybe I was reading an out dated copy that the council sent me then !

good to know !

I always thought you could have loads of bay windows that dont mee the ground (dont know what the propper name is) then gain some shelf/storage space

 

[skipdiver]

It is 30 sq mt internal floor area,nore more than 4mts high from the highest part of the surrounding land and more than 5mts from the house.It has to be substantially of a non combustible material(if not then it has to be at least a mt from the boundary) and cannot be used as a habitable building or for running a business.

Meet all those criteria and you can pretty much do as you wish.

 

[Gary]

cannot be used as a habitable building or for running a business.

Out of interest what do you do for a living? :wink: