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from: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/14/gen-z-cannot-change-a-light-bulb/

Why a generation of young people can’t handle DIY​

A new generation is increasingly incapable of – or uninterested in – completing simple household tasks, but that should come as no surprise

Do you know how to change a light bulb? Pump a tyre? What about hanging a picture frame? If your answer to all three of these questions is “yes”, then chances are that you may not be a member of Gen Z.

A quarter of adults aged 18 to 27 have admitted to not changing a light bulb themselves because using a stepladder could be dangerous, while over 10 per cent would call in a professional to hang a picture frame, according to research commissioned by Halfords.

So, why are Gen Z seemingly turning away from DIY – are they at fault for not taking the initiative and always turning to Google or the local repair man? Or could the blame lie with parents, for wrapping their children in cotton wool and not teaching them these vital life skills?

Judging from the comments below the original story, which was published on the Telegraph website yesterday morning, it’s a subject that provokes strong opinions among readers. Emma Dixon is firmly of the view that the parents have a lot to answer for.

“It’s all very well directing relentless criticism at Gen Z but who brought them up?” she says. “Perhaps a bit of self-examination by older generations would not go amiss if the younger ones are so incompetent.”

And Jan Leach has first-hand experience of this incompetence (although, admittedly, among Millennials rather than Gen Z). “[A] couple in their 30s moved in next door six years ago. They owned no tools, let alone power tools,” she says.

“Any DIY was carried out by one of their fathers with the ‘man of the house’ looking on. The usual parent was away when something went wrong – daughter broke a cupboard door. They asked me – a 67-year-old woman at the time – if I could help. As the cupboard came from a well-known supplier of flat-packed furniture, I took him to get a new door, after examining it and deciding it was beyond repair.

“I put the new door on and suggested he look for a DIY class. Next Christmas he asked for power tools, according to their erstwhile handyman!”

Another Telegraph reader Jo Harrison also recalls her Gen Z neighbour struggling to master the arts of DIY and home maintenance. “Having 15 years ago acquired a neighbour with – at that time – a nine-year-old daughter who is now 24, I have experienced many of these events myself.

“‘How do I open the bonnet on my car?’ ‘What does this light mean?’ (Low oil pressure.) ‘Mum’s out and how do I turn on the heating?’ ‘Can you come round and remove a spider from the lounge?’”

So, while it seems Gen Z may be slightly clueless when it comes to mastering an electric screwdriver, are young adults simply too self-serving, expecting others to do everything for them, or is there more at play?

Jonty Ashworth, managing director at Ash & Co, teaches adults of all ages and abilities at his DIY and woodworking classes. He says: “A lot of people come to our classes with little to no experience and are genuinely afraid of drilling into a wall because they’ve been told they could die.

“While it is very important to learn how to do these things safely, I think there’s this culture in the UK where we’ve created a lot of fear around DIY. We should be promoting a culture of learning, rather than just getting someone to do it for you.”

In Ashworth’s classes, students are given a comprehensive education on “demystifying the B&Q aisles” and are taught a range of skills including how to master power tools, woodworking, and essential safety practices.

“There are a lot of people now in their early 30s, buying their first homes and realising they don’t know how to do household tasks like drilling into a wall.

“My dad was a civil engineer and so I grew up on building sites. I learnt a lot from him over the years. Either you’ve got a parent who has the experience and can then teach you, or you don’t. And if you don’t, and you’re not taught DIY skills growing up, then it’s very difficult to learn and you just don’t have the confidence.”

As a “Gen-Zer” myself, I can speak for the benefits of growing up with a DIY dad. From a young age, my father – who fancies himself an electrician, plumber, and builder alongside his work as a double-glazing installer – taught my sister and I all sorts of tricks, including how to properly clean a car, plaster a wall, and use power tools.

When I left home for university, my parents sent me off with a shiny new screwdriver set and, over the years, my dad has always been “on call” for my various DIY woes.

Just a few months ago, I managed to fix my bathroom window thanks to a handy tutorial video he made for me.

As Ashworth suggests, learning from him over the years gave me the confidence to complete household tasks that I might have otherwise never attempted. But as well as a decline in parental teaching, Ashworth believes the issue stems from the cutting back of practical subjects in schools.

“Woodworking, for example, doesn’t get taught so widely in schools anymore because it is so hard for them to comply with health and safety rules,” he says. “I completely understand how difficult it is to make these lessons health and safety compliant, and I don’t know what the solution is, but it means children just aren’t learning these vital skills.”

This certainly rings true for one Gen Z-er who says she did not gain much practical experience at school.

“We did have DT lessons and I remember making some wooden bookends and a clock. That was about it,” she recalls. “I can just about change a light bulb myself, but anything more complicated than that and it’s straight to TaskRabbit [an app where you can hire competent DIY-ers] or putting it on a never-ending list for my fiancé or his dad to handle.”

Her list of self-confessed DIY deficiencies include avoiding bleeding radiators, paying someone to put a cupboard back on its hinges, and asking her brother to hang a lamp shade.

A few decades ago – how to hang a lampshade, check the car oil or change a fuse in a plug – would have been basic hand-me-down skills from family members who didn’t, or financially couldn’t, rely on garages or electricians. So apart from increasing spending power, what’s changed?

“Helicopter parenting” has gained traction in recent years, as an all-encompassing term for parents who are too attentive of their children and over-fearful of their experiences and problems.

“I think [helicopter parenting] stems from an increasingly competitive world,” says Emma Citron, a consultant clinical psychologist and chartered member of the British Psychological Society.

“Parents see the competitive job market, the fact that it’s now more difficult to get into university, and they become anxious of what it means for their child. They will try to cram in as much experience and extracurricular activity as they can afford to try to boost their child’s chances.

“However, this can lead to a situation where parents end up putting their own anxieties and fears onto their youngsters who, in turn, become more anxious and less independent.

“Or the parents take over and end up doing basic things for their children, spoon-feeding or mollycoddling them, which means they never learn and don’t have the opportunity to try things for themselves.”

This theory rings true for reader Jan Goff, who says: “We did not have lessons in these matters but were shown by our parents. It begs the question – do any parents try to make their children independent?

“I live next door to a fit and healthy young man whose mum comes to clean every week and whose father does all the DIY stuff. [The] boy is about 30. How will he manage without them, when they become too old to look after him?”

It is only natural for parents to worry about their children – so how can they strike a balance and ensure their babies are prepared for life’s challenges whilst also gaining independence?

“We need to take the lead from our young people,” Emma says. “If they want to give something a try, don’t take the wind out of their sails.

“Don’t book the Ikea DIY person to come and build something for you if your child wants to give it a go themselves. It’s about letting them have a try and just trusting them.”
 
Well I don't know about pumping up a tyre, but otherwise . . . daughter no 1 is Gen Z through and through.

However, she has now been taught and has my old cordless drill and some other tools

What about others?

As an aside, giving offspring older tools is the perfect excuse to justify replacing them to the other half!
 
My nephew(Gen Z) and his GF(Gen Z) needed to put up a shelf in their room, but they fluffed it because they couldnt get the holes drilled in the correct place(despite having the shelf supports there). I suppose they didnt think to assemble the shelf which would show the exact hole placings.

My sister has blamed me, even though im pants at putting up shelving basically as thats not really my skill set, and while i can do it, its not something i've done on a regular basis so the skill is driven home.
But still its apparently my fault I wasnt there to 'oversee'
Nephews GF's father is a builder and prior had shown her how to drill holes in the wall,so you understood the basics, but as with myself experience of doing it multiple times is probably the key.

But it's apparently still my fault :LOL:

Same nephew - Organized a trip to B&Q to get myself some batons. Not that I needed them, but it was an excuse to spend a bit of time with my godson, and pop 20 quids worth of fuel into his car, as he at that point was at uni and had little funds, oh and a trip to MacDonalds, where he wasnt shy about following my instructions to order whatever he wanted(greedy bu66er)

Anyway. Timber was too long for the car so needed cut in half, and after doing some of it, the nephew expressed interest in me letting him cut the rest of it. So I suppose there is some interest in doing basic woodworking.
I handed him the saw(newish and sharp)
It was an exercise in how not to use a saw :LOL: he just couldnt get the saw to glide and it caught after a few teeth. No matter how many times he tried, it caught.
So I informed him not to hold the saw at to steep an angle and not to try to force the cut, so it was a bit of instruction, and i seem to remember my sister saying that he had an interest in doing basic joinery and other diy tasks
But to be fair you hand anyone a handsaw who has never used the tool and they would struggle to use it properly

So while the actual skill isnt there at least the interest is.

I think with Gen Z or any other Gen, all they really need is some sort of project to get their teeth into - maybe decking, or internal 2nd fix and have someone experienced on hand to walk or talk them through the tasks.
Experience brings skill and understanding, so i dont think its fair to write them off entirely.
 
You cannot blame a given generation for being inept, the problem lies with the previous generation for not giving them the life skills they needed and I dare say this has not just occured over a few generations but the rot set in many years ago and has just got worse with each generation. I would also suggest that the continual objective of deskilling to save cost has also not helped.
 
You cannot blame a given generation for being inept, the problem lies with the previous generation for not giving them the life skills they needed
Nah, I don't buy that.

2nd paragraph after the intro of what a Gen Zer is:-

As the first social generation to have grown up with access to the Internet and portable digital technology from a young age, members of Generation Z have been dubbed "digital natives"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z

That's the main cause, (IMO) they just aren't interested in DIY, life skills, car maintenance, whatever.

It's a whole new world folks, we're the fuddy-duddies, the wrinklies, the "I'll get Dad to do it" brigade. suck it up and deal with it.

I speak from experience, 26 year old son.
 
I can't quite grasp what letter generations are. I'm 53, my kids age from 23 to 11.
I'm not absolving myself of being a bad parent-I tried not to be- but an awful lot of the responsibility of 'who brought them up is actually on the schools. When I was at school, teachers did not worry about hurting our feelings, in fact they seemed to devote a lot of their energy to doing as much harm as possible to those who weren't compliant. There were winners and losers. Top of the class and bottom. Fastest, best, and "you'll have to go in goal. ADHD hadn't been invented- you were an idiot and a daydreamer.
For my kids in school, it seemed that provided they appeared to be compliant, there were never any actual consequences.
Teachers seem to have gone to school, to college, then back to school, with no real world experience. They want to be liked by the kids, and their only way is appeasement.
I had teachers who had gone from school to WW2 and a hard road to Berlin. They were men. Seriously, if you've struggled up the beach on D-day with MG42s knocking down your oppos left and right, what are you going to fear from a gobby 14 year old with an attitude problem?
But as parents, we have been made so afraid of hurting our children by them missing out that we sacrifice ourselves and our time and resources to ferrying them to and from schools and clubs and sports. Women feel guilty that they have to work, and might somehow be failing as a mother, so both parents are trying to make up for circumstances beyond their control, because everyone else is in the same boat and doing the same thing.
We give our kids lego, rather than risk the disappointment of mucking up an airfix kit. We didn't let them risk a broken arm falling out of a tree, because letting our kids suffer such setbacks would be bad parenting. Now we are told to blame ourselves for the outcome of this societally enforced mollycoddling.
 
I don`t know if it is generational, I know people from various generations who don`t know which end of a hammer to hold and have no inclination to find out.
I think some people are drawn to building things and finding out how things work and others aren`t. Just how we are wired.
 
We didn't let them risk a broken arm falling out of a tree, because letting our kids suffer such setbacks would be bad parenting. Now we are told to blame ourselves for the outcome of this societally enforced mollycoddling.

You learn from experience, words are just words and saying that this would burn is meaningless, they need to feel the pain just like falling out of trees or being thrown off an all metal roundabout in a playground onto concrete as it gets the point across. It is really amazing thinking back that there were not loads of kids around with plaster cast.

One thing that has changed the mindsets is social media and the phone, kids now live in a virtual world where a freind is something on the phone that you will probably never meet and with no social interaction so how do you expect them to develop into someone who can particpitate socially and interact in the real world let alone be part of a countries economy.
 
One thing that has changed the mindsets is social media and the phone, kids now live in a virtual world where a freind is something on the phone that you will probably never meet and with no social interaction
See if you can spot what is wrong in the above sentence ;)

You still aren't getting it, this is THEIR world, our time is over and done with. The way we were raised, taught, educated, life lessons etc etc etc has nothing whatsoever to do with their futures, the technology of the last 30 years has seen to that

Wikipedia
Researchers and popular media use the mid-to-late 1990s as starting birth years and the early 2010s as ending birth years, with the generation most frequently being defined as people born from 1997 to 2012

Mid to late 90's, hmmm ... I wonder what could have happened in the early 90's that could have had such a dramatic impact on Gen Zers development
 
The problem with that is that nothing will get done, they will become the X generation for xtinction !

You cannot have an economy that is just virtual and with no one wanting to do anything like the trades and they will be wide open to eventual foreign control as there will be no army or defence. The reason we have survived to date has been a continous handover of skills and ability to do which is survival.
 
The problem with that is that nothing will get done, they will become the X generation for xtinction !
OR, they might just come up with the impossible, a potential means to avoid extinction.

One way or another, there will be a massive sea-change in the next 50-100 years, if the human race can avoid extinction.
By then, Zoomers will be Grandparents, we will be long gone, and the world will be a very different place.

Yes we will still need manual trades and a skilled/unskilled workforce, along with Army/defence/whatever, and there will be Zoomers that wish to pursue that, but they will be {are} in the minority. it`s Gen Alpha (and Beta) that this thread should be discussing :ROFLMAO::eek:
 
Daughter is at secondary now, just about to choose GCSEs but with many friends who left school last summer straight after GCSEs.
It has been interesting to see that a large proportion of them have landed apprenticeships in practical jobs. The trouble as I see it is that we don't enough industries left round here for all of them to do that if they choose.

Heard a good phrase recently ' your parents are raising you for a world that no longer exists'. It seems very true
 

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