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Solar panels are now ludicrously cheap: I just replaced 40 panels (10kW output) with 28 panels with marginally more output for under £5,000. I paid 6 or more times that for the originals 10 years ago.

According to https://ecocostsavings.com/average-electric-car-kwh-per-mile/ you need 34kW hours to travel 100 miles, so a 10kw panel system (which is a fairly hefty area of panels) would need a minimum of 3 hours of sunshine to replace that energy.
That's interesting real world data. There is 9.1kwhrs of energy in a litre of petrol. so that is approximately 122 miles per gallon petrol equivalent.

That seem about right as Evs are far more effieicint than ICE at turning energy into miles. 80% vs 30%. Its even more efficient when you consider low carbon methods to generate each fuel type. The ratio is 77% for eV vs 13% for ICE.
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That's a fair comment, I don't know what the future will bring, I am just point out observations based on my personal circumstances and those of the people that live around me. If you live in an affluent area where everyone has a driveway for instance, the idea of charging your car at home not only seems like a sensible thing to do, but actually is more appealing than going out to the petrol station. If you are retired or work from home or an office nearby, the drawbacks of car charging and travelling for work don't readily make themselves apparent. I am just trying to put forward situations which some may not have thought about, I had said it before that the general membership here seems to occupy a certain social class that is not very representative of the majority of the populous, threads like these help us to learn from each other.

I took a walk yesterday afternoon around my area and along the very long street which I live on. I paid attention to how many houses actually had a reasonable opportunity to charge their vehicle at their house, either a driveway or garage. I had estimated in a previous post that it was approx 10% that could do so. I actually surprised myself in how wrong I was, the number is far fewer, less than 5%. Most people have to park on the street, a small number have garages in blocks and there are (non allocated) spaces in communal car park, but very few people have a private driveway.
You raise an important point. I've seen a lot of development work in addressing on street charging. Various schemes from plug in lamposts, to charge points for every space on the road, and as I'm previously mentioned even inductive charging loops set into the road surface.
I'm share Blackswanwood's view that the technology will be made widely accessible. At present its only just being introduce to early adopter. That is how the auto industry works, they try things out on the more up market products first. That way they iron out the issues on low volumes before cranking up the high volume lower cost models.
The political heft of the uk's 'average person' will cause the government to have to listen. I share the view that the phase out deadline is to encourage industry investment, it provides a target and legal framework for companies to compete around. In that time I expect lots of innovative solutions to charging EVs, most of the technology challenges have been overcome so its really a matter or commercialising and productionising the technology.
 
If you live in a town the chances are that you have a good mobile connection, a choice of high-speed broad band, street lighting and access to reasonable public transport.
The inference being that away from the towns those things are not available. That is a depressing but, I think, perfectly true observation. Depressing because it does not have to be like that. I live in the forest miles from anywhere. It is 27 km to my nearest retail outlet, a village shop. The village in which I theoretically live has a population of about 900 but that is dispersed - I live 9 km from the village center for example. So I am not exactly in a major metropolis. Yet I have a good and reliable 4G mobile phone service and fibre optic broadband. It can be done if the will is there. I don't have any viable public transport though.
 
Just for fun.....
you are very lucky, gotta say 1/2 of rural Britain is in the stone age as far as internet coverage is concerned.....

I went up a goat track here in Crete, miles from anywhere.....never saw a soul but had FULL 4G.....fibre is now in the ground all over the island and gradually being conected...even in the outlaying villages.....
COSMOTE do a package, TV, land line phone and no limit internet for 32euro's per month....
it was double that cost in France with limits on the net.....
 
COSMOTE do a package, TV, land line phone and no limit internet for 32euro's per month....
That sounds like a good deal.
Our fibre optic cable provides TV and no limit internet. I have no idea what our package costs. Almost certainly expensive; everything is expensive here.
Nobody here gets land line phones any more. We moved into this house in 2004 and even back then it just wasn't done. The only people with land line phones had them when Adam was a small boy and for some reason have kept them.
 
That's a poor hypothesis. The breakdown of the family and increased drug trade coincided with the rise and an enormous increase in enforcement and imprisonment coincided with the decline. Just because one bar looks like it marches doesn't mean the two have anything to do with each other.
Amazingly it is a serious subject with loads of good scientific studies, its credibility stems from the causal link, lead does have a very serious impact on mental capacity, it lowers IQ and IQ correlates to prison population. In reality there are loads of factors affecting crime, but lead was probably under recognised at the time. I included the graph to be light hearted as its clearly not the whole story - but has an amazingly close coralation:). But eliminating lead has been an environmental success story and the costs were manageable.

Here is an overview of the lead hypothesis in wiki. Lead–crime hypothesis - Wikipedia I've seen studies done in the UK, especially around spaghetti junction in Birmingham (a notorious road junction) again the correlation is striking and shifted about 5 to 7 years to the US data - TEL was introduced later in the UK and phased out later than the US. However similar social trends in the UK to the US over the same time period, so again lead is only part of the picture.
 
Not discounting that lead has consequences on IQ and judgement, but unless that judgement causes parents to become unmarried, income (and drug traffic) to rise at the same time, and incarceration to increase significantly when lead drops, it doesn't really work well against the reality of what occurred in the states.

Map the percentage of single parent households against the crime increase, the decline of household families and extended families and then chart the tail end (when the crime rate drops) against the incarceration rate in the US.
 
Interesting, I can't get a mobile signal or high speed internet where I am in Kent.
 
the only reason we have a land line is because u can't opt out of one...
the phone stopped working after a month or two but who cares....hahaha.....
I think it's just another way to get extra money...(phone call charges)
but with the cost of the phone unit it doesn't really stack up....
just nuts.....guess it'll change in years to come......

this place is pretty laid back but even Greek grannies have a smart phone now.....
makes me laugh when I see 80 year olds surfing the net when having a coffee....hahaha.....
 
That's interesting real world data. There is 9.1kwhrs of energy in a litre of petrol. so that is approximately 122 miles per gallon petrol equivalent.

That seem about right as Evs are far more effieicint than ICE at turning energy into miles. 80% vs 30%. Its even more efficient when you consider low carbon methods to generate each fuel type. The ratio is 77% for eV vs 13% for ICE.
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Interesting figures, expect to see some improvement in the H2 to electricity conversion in the next few years. The weight of the power-train should also be factored in.

Hydrogen really only makes sense at present if it is created as a by product from electricity generation. Installing enough renewable generation capacity to become carbon neutral requires a lot of energy storage when generated power exceeds demand and H2 may be a viable way to achieve this.
 

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