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RogerS":1oushrq6 said:
(b) they can let their dogs cr*p anywhere they want and not bother to pick it up
I do get shouted at over this one - We pick ours up and, in certified biodegradable bags, fling it into the undergrowth away from the footpath. Now, according to these shouty experts, the deer and rabbit and bird and badger and hedgehog and mouse and rat and fox and whatever-else cr*p that is also in that undergrowth is perfectly fine and natural, but adding one dog turd utterly destroys the balance of nature and presents a serious health risk to any kids... assuming those kids are able to crawl through 20' of thick bramble bushes to go lick the ground in the first place

Jacob":1oushrq6 said:
Ditto with farmers, who are notorious for destroying ancient woodland, habitat, archaeological sites
Do these not already have protection orders on them?
No?
Nobody cares about them, then.
 
Jacob":3lyy5id1 said:
NB I am not the troll in this thread, which I think is pretty clear to all, except the trolls of course, which seems to include the usual suspects!

Be interesting to note who the "all" actually are.
Everyone else must be a troll of course which is why we've been banned on numerous times, but we haven't have we!
Have you ever been banned from the forums btw?
 
Tasky":1yg3cov7 said:
RogerS":1yg3cov7 said:
(b) they can let their dogs cr*p anywhere they want and not bother to pick it up
I do get shouted at over this one - We pick ours up and, in certified biodegradable bags, fling it into the undergrowth away from the footpath. Now, according to these shouty experts, the deer and rabbit and bird and badger and hedgehog and mouse and rat and fox and whatever-else cr*p that is also in that undergrowth is perfectly fine and natural, but adding one dog turd utterly destroys the balance of nature and presents a serious health risk to any kids... assuming those kids are able to crawl through 20' of thick bramble bushes to go lick the ground in the first place

Jacob":1yg3cov7 said:
Ditto with farmers, who are notorious for destroying ancient woodland, habitat, archaeological sites
Do these not already have protection orders on them?
No?
Nobody cares about them, then.

Its not about the kids - thats a park related thing. Its more about Livestock.

http://www.outdooraccess-scotland.com/s ... ties_0.pdf
 
iNewbie":1547hmve said:
Its not about the kids - thats a park related thing. Its more about Livestock.
Farmers have shotguns and are (supposedly) allowed to shoot any dog it deems as being any kind of threat to their livestock, or somesuch words to that effect.
I'm therefore not stupid enough to let my dogs anywhere near livestock, except when using a public footpath through private land (which tends not to be grazing land so much anyway), where simple good manners and decorum dictate that our dogs' mess gets removed to a location far from what is effectively someone else's garden.

Hence casting it into suitable undergrowth, where neither man nor livestock (and rarely anything else) are ever likely to venture, much less be present and un-pricked long enough to eat the contents.

Moreover, given our dogs' exceptionally good diet and since the diseases are "picked up by dogs which eat infected placenta/foetal material, or raw meat from infected stock", the only way my dogs will become infected in the first place is if the local butcher (himself a livestock farmer) who supplies us with the human grade food upon which our furbabies feast, supplies infected meat in the first place.
 
Tasky":30eiwpq8 said:
iNewbie":30eiwpq8 said:
Its not about the kids - thats a park related thing. Its more about Livestock.
Farmers have shotguns and are (supposedly) allowed to shoot any dog it deems as being any kind of threat to their livestock, or somesuch words to that effect.
I'm therefore not stupid enough to let my dogs anywhere near livestock, except when using a public footpath through private land (which tends not to be grazing land so much anyway), where simple good manners and decorum dictate that our dogs' mess gets removed to a location far from what is effectively someone else's garden.

Hence casting it into suitable undergrowth, where neither man nor livestock (and rarely anything else) are ever likely to venture, much less be present and un-pricked long enough to eat the contents.

Moreover, given our dogs' exceptionally good diet and since the diseases are "picked up by dogs which eat infected placenta/foetal material, or raw meat from infected stock", the only way my dogs will become infected in the first place is if the local butcher (himself a livestock farmer) who supplies us with the human grade food upon which our furbabies feast, supplies infected meat in the first place.

Don't shoot the messenger...

I've had dogs so I'm a dog lover. What you do isn't what some other pillocks do. I'm on the edge of town and walk the fields twice daily. You'd be surprised at what some owners do. So I see cattle hassled by dog on a near daily basis - in fact I was nearly killed due to a stampede caused by a dog earlier this year...

I also see the clowns who don't pick up. The farmer can't use the cut grass from one filed because of the amount of dog crap in it. So why you may feel all high and mighty about your standing theres another others bringing you down.

If I was a farmer I'd be shooting a lot of dogs and their owners... The Pheasants just nodded in agreement. :mrgreen:
 
As we speak, I'm crapping in a biodegradable bag, ready to toss into Tasky's garden.
 
Out of interest how long do the bags take to biodegrade?
 
Bm101":1z8iufbd said:
Out of interest how long do the bags take to biodegrade?

Hopefully, longer than it takes me to drive from Wales to Reading. :-D
 
NazNomad":2ycdjjp0 said:
Bm101":2ycdjjp0 said:
Out of interest how long do the bags take to biodegrade?

Hopefully, longer than it takes me to drive from Wales to Reading. :-D

My wife just yelled at me to be quiet. She heard me laughing through two floors and is trying to sleep.
 
iNewbie":y2nmhth9 said:
Don't shoot the messenger...
But whoever sent the message is usually hiding behind a tree way over there... can't imagine why!!

iNewbie":y2nmhth9 said:
So I see cattle hassled by dog on a near daily basis - in fact I was nearly killed due to a stampede caused by a dog earlier this year...
Many peole don't take the time to understand even the basics of what they're dealing with when it comes to having dogs.

iNewbie":y2nmhth9 said:
If I was a farmer I'd be shooting a lot of dogs and their owners... The Pheasants just nodded in agreement. :mrgreen:
Shoot the owners and find the dogs a proper home.

NazNomad":y2nmhth9 said:
As we speak, I'm crapping in a biodegradable bag, ready to toss into Tasky's garden.
Good luck getting close enough... Mind the cows, watch out for the shotgun club and the rowdy reckless 4x4 green laners, don't stop on the level crossing... and if your SatNav hasn't gotten you completely lost by this time, you should be lined up nicely for the 60mm mortar.
Welcome to Reading!!

Bm101":y2nmhth9 said:
Out of interest how long do the bags take to biodegrade?
These are certified for 3 months in an oxygen environment (ie not buried), but can take less time if exposed to direct sunlight.

NazNomad":y2nmhth9 said:
Hopefully, longer than it takes me to drive from Wales to Reading. :-D
Depends what you ate beforehand and whether we have any roadworks this week... as is, the M4 has speed restrictions, so it's not looking favourable...
 
Claymore":31nkpx8i said:
...AND a Mad Welshman who is crapping in biodegradable bags

How very dare you, sir! I'm an Essex boy, born & bred.

They Welsh just allow me to live here, as long as I don't fling crépe at them.
 
RogerS":1k11ospf said:
I call it litter. Take it home. What's so difficult about that ?
This was supposed to be an environmentally friendly way of merging it back into nature... kinda the whole idea of a bag in which you can leave it to decompose off the pathway and not upset the delicate balance of nature...

But just for you, if I ever manage to get over all the other crap (literal and otherwise) on these routes, I'll be sure to take it as far as the nearest suitable container... knowing of course, before you bring it up, that disposal in cess pits, septic tanks and any landfill-bound waste collection is equally as heinous a crime, as flushing it down the main sewer.

NazNomad":1k11ospf said:
They Welsh just allow me to live here, as long as I don't fling crépe at them.
You mean we're not allowed to transport convicts to Australia any more but the Welsh allow them, in return for Plaid Cymru getting an extra couple of Seats? :p
 
I believe that dog bins get emptied and end up in landfill.

It bugs me that some dog owners use non biodegradable bags, like old supermarket bags.

What about those bags that are left hanging on trees or hedgerows? I have always assumed that they are left by people when dont want to carry a bag all the way round a walk, but then forget to collect on the back. Maybe they have been left as the bags actually biodegradable..........
 
Well, you see Tasky, I am struggling to understand the logistics of what you do with your bag. You say 'fling it into the undergrowth'. Just exactly what sort of 'undergrowth' do you have? If it's brambly type of stuff then your bag is just going to hang there like a faecal Xmas decoration. Just great. Super.

We had a numpty fling a bag into our hedge and when I went to retrieve it discovered that they are not very strong. So to whoever dumped their doggie bag full of cr*p because they were too damn lazy to take it home, may your bag burst in your car.

Or if it's fern type undergrowth then that's not much of a barrier to a kid.

Incidentally, what is all this business about septic tanks etc? How do you dispose of your dog cr*p when you pick it up off the street ? Or do you fling the disposable bag into someone's garden ?

I stand by my original comment. Don't be lazy. Take it home. Don't litter.
 
The bags didn't disintegrate in my boxer's stomach, they'd go through her intact - other than the time she swallowed a duck carcass along with three of them (full) ... then they punctured easily enough. :lol:
 
This ''boxer'', does it have scales by any chance?

I knew it, it's a friggin' crocodile.
 
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