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I’m all for a bit of “thread drift” but once Tony crops up any thread inevitably turns to his views on the current government delivered in a confrontational style. It would potentially be interesting if he had anything new to say but it’s the same old stuff that’s already been well aired.
 
Do you think the Conservative party or the Reform Party would do better? ( A = the former didnt over the last 14 years and the latter offer nothing of substance)

by the way, the people moaning bitterly about Labour increasing taxes never seem to put forward any suggestions of how they would fund public services which are starved to the point of collapse...........would you like to venture some suggestions? :giggle:


The harsh reality is that this government inherited a country on its knees, destroyed by 40+ years of neo liberalism, brexit, covid corruption.............what miracles did you think labour were going to pull out of the bag?
So, so easy to bring out the old chestnuts.. Old history. We're interested in the here and now. And it is blatantly clear that before the election the country was in growth. Now we've got two months of negative growth from a Govt who have promised us growth. They haven't. They don't know how to.

Or to put things in context. Our central heating comes on for three hours in the morning. The thermostat is set at 14 degrees. It then comes on again for another couple of hours in the evening. Thermostat stil at 14 degrees. Night time thermostat is set to 12 degrees. THAT is the reality of a Labour Govt.
 
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So, so easy to bring out the old chestnuts.. Old history. We're interested in the here and now
the state of public service, the state of the economy, the housing crisis are all predicated on the past


Now we've got two months of negative growth from a Govt who have promised us growth
lets look at 2023 growth for the year was 0.3%

4 Dec 2024
The IMF lifted its forecast for UK GDP growth in 2024 from 0.7% to 1.1%. It left its forecast for UK GDP growth in 2025 unchanged at 1.5%.

so compared to last year of Conservatives things are improving





I am sure you have some great ideas for how you wouldve done things differently mind you I notice you still shrink from saying how you think Conservatives or Reform wouldve done

we have over 7 million people on NHS waiting lists, prisions about to collapse, schools falling down...........please can you tell me where you think the govt should get the money from?

Im not a fan of this Labour govt, but they are still better than the previous bunch.
 
So, so easy to bring out the old chestnuts.. Old history. We're interested in the here and now. And it is blatantly clear that before the election the country was in growth. Now we've got two months of negative growth from a Govt who have promised us growth. They haven't. They don't know how to.

Or to put things in context. Our central heating comes on for three hours in the morning. The thermostat is set at 14 degrees. It then comes on again for another couple of hours in the evening. Thermostat stil at 14 degrees. Night time thermostat is set to 12 degrees. THAT is the reality of a Labour Govt.
If it was a Tory government who'd robbed the pensioners to pay the Tory equivalent of train drivers we wouldn't be hearing the last of it but because it isn't, all we get in these threads is a muted response and verbose attacks on such as me for daring to point out that this Labour government is pants with Starmer being about as much good as a one legged man in an backside kicking contest!

As for this Labour government being better than the previous lot, sorry but I'm afraid they're not!
 
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