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[Phil Pascoe]

I found an English mastiff, a doberman, a huge seven year old gander, a sow and a hive of bees quite a good deterent to people out for walkies.
The "travellers" casing the place soon stopped.

 

[Jacob]

Widely seen as a good thing.
http://www.ramblers.org.uk/advice/paths ... -roam.aspx

Result of a long hard battle which produced the National Parks amongst other things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_tres ... nder_Scout

No going back - it'll be extended in England too.
And no it doesn't permit you to walk through peoples' gardens.

The link to rambler.org notes the following land can be walked over:
Mountain is land over 600m/1,969ft above sea level and other upland areas of rough, steep land with crags, scree, bare rock and associated vegetation.

Moor is unenclosed areas of semi-natural vegetation, including bog, rough acid grassland and calcareous grassland.

Heath is unenclosed areas of nutrient-poor soils that support acid-loving plants such as heather, gorse, bilberry and bracken.

Down is semi-natural, unimproved grasslands in chalk or limestone areas, perhaps also supporting scattered scrub.

Common land is land registered as common under the Commons Registration Act 1965.

However
No, even with the new freedom to roam in open countryside there are restrictions. First of all to qualify the land must be uncultivated mountain, moor, heath, down and common land, which has been officially mapped. This land is shown in yellow on Ordnance Survey Explorer maps. If you stray off this into domestic spaces, farmland or gardens you are trespassing. Land managers also have the right to close off areas of land for 28 days.

I think this thread commenting about 'wayward tourists' is referring to straying onto land that is not available for rambling......so you can tell them to gerrorf my land

Much looser regulations in Scotland where Claymore has settled. Still pretty reasonable for all concerned including the land owners.

 

[Claymore]

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[RogerS]

..... I feel strongly that we must defend such access to the countryside as we have, it was hard won. As such I always report obstructed roghts of way.

Public footpaths. Unfortunately it works both ways, Tony, and many (sometimes it seems like the majority) who use them seem to think that :
(a) the countryside is a glorified theme park
(b) they can let their dogs cr*p anywhere they want and not bother to pick it up
(c) let their dogs off the lead when it is blatantly clear to anyone that they are incapable of keeping their dog under control and so should keep their dog on a lead
(d) walk along in a gaggle talking in VERY LOUD VOICES (they can't all be deaf)
(e) stand and gawp at our house, pointing all the while

Over the last few Sundays we have had one couple wandering around our back garden and when challenged kept repeating "But we've come to have a look round" and a few weeks later found someone parked up on our lawn, locking the car as 'They were off for a walk". They didn't seem to comprehend the phrase "This is private land". Luckily for them it was my wife who challenged them.

 

[Sawdust=manglitter]

We've since bought somewhere better without it, but reading certain opinions on this thread completely reinforces the decision we made when we pulled out of the sale of a smallholding a week before completion because the solicitor's searches highlighted a public right of way through the land! There are plenty of nature reserves and county parks around (here anyways), so why can't disrespectful self entitled twits respect others' privacy

 

[Lons]

Plan your overtakes better... or don't drive a BMW/Audi and they'll actually let you past!!

Nah - I drive an Audi quatro and it's quick enough to get past. :lol: Anyway, most of the tractor drivers around here pull over when they get a chance if there's a long queue behind them.

 

[Jacob]

.....e talking in VERY LOUD VOICES .....

:lol: Dear oh dear that's terrible! In a gaggle too!! What riff raff. Have they no manners at all? I bet they walk along eating pies with their mouths open. :roll:

 

[Jacob]

We've since bought somewhere better without it, but reading certain opinions on this thread completely reinforces the decision we made when we pulled out of the sale of a smallholding a week before completion because the solicitor's searches highlighted a public right of way through the land! There are plenty of nature reserves and county parks around (here anyways), so why can't disrespectful self entitled twits respect others' privacy

I'm afraid disrespectful self-entitled property owners have to respect rights of way. Otherwise they'd all be closed down and we'd have to kick off something like the Kinder march, all over again!

 

[Sawdust=manglitter]

I'm afraid disrespectful self-entitled property owners have to respect rights of way. Otherwise they'd all be closed down and we'd have to kick off something like the Kinder march, all over again!

 

[RogerS]

.....e talking in VERY LOUD VOICES .....

:lol: Dear oh dear that's terrible! In a gaggle too!! What riff raff. Have they no manners at all? I bet they walk along eating pies with their mouths open. :roll:

Hah hah. I put money on you coming out with this trite little snide comment and I was right.

And aren't you being a tad hypocritical. I recall you posting elsewhere about marching round to your next-door neighbour to moan about his strumming being too noisy.

 

[AJB Temple]

The footpaths thing is amusing at times. We had some woodland that was part of the farm. It had stream running through so was a bit boggy in places. There was also an ancient, stiled (farm had dairy cattle), footpath running through, that was very muddy at times. One year we improved the footpath by putting some hard core down and then a thick layer of wood chippings as we cleared out the woodland to get some light into it. Less than a week later I was walking the dogs down there, early one morning, and found a couple shovelling the chippings into two wheelbarrows. I asked what they were doing and the lady said "it makes great mulch so we're taking some home". I explained that the land was mine, as were the chippings, but they were welcome to fill their barrows from the truly enormous pile we had near the farm house, rather than damage the newly surfaced woodland path. I don't think they meant to steal, or vandalise the path, but people do seem to think the countryside is a sort of common resource that they can plunder at will sometimes.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

I drove past my mother's smallholding (when the house was being rebuilt) one afternoon and stopped when I saw a man, his wife and two children in the front field with buckets of primrose plants, still pulling them from the hedges. I informed him that it was very obviously private property, and that if he didn't want the police informed he should put them back. I watched as they stuffed them all back in holes in the hedge.
My family owned a hotel at the time, and several weeks later I saw the man concerned in the bar. I told my mother that he was the person I'd seen nicking the primroses, and she told me he was the manager of one of the town's building societies.

 

[Jacob]

Could fill this thread with anecdotes about stupid farmers and landowners but why bother? Neither side has a monopoly on wit and wisdom.

 

[Lons]

Could fill this thread with anecdotes about stupid farmers and landowners but why bother?

I thought you had already tried that (hammer) Nobody cares.

Roger. Can I order a dozen cans of that troll repellant please?

 

[Lons]

I drove past my mother's smallholding (when the house was being rebuilt) one afternoon and stopped when I saw a man, his wife and two children in the front field with buckets of primrose plants, still pulling them from the hedges. I informed him that it was very obviously private property, and that if he didn't want the police informed he should put them back. I watched as they stuffed them all back in holes in the hedge.
My family owned a hotel at the time, and several weeks later I saw the man concerned in the bar. I told my mother that he was the person I'd seen nicking the primroses, and she told me he was the manager of one of the town's building societies.

One of the problems Phil. They don't seem to realise that all wildflowers and plants are protected by law unless classed as pest species and pick and dig up whatever they fancy.
I planted a couple of hundred metres of mixed hedging a number of years ago and found 2 guys digging up the plants and some trees. When challenged they said "we thought they were self seeded" wtf? :roll:

 

[skipdiver]

Moving to the countryside so as to play rock music as loud as you like. Now that is as good a reason as any. Rightmove here i come.

 

[John Brown]

If you disagree with Jacob, you are at liberty to ignore him.
Sometimes it's hard to tell who's trolling who.
IMO.

 

[Lons]

If you disagree with Jacob, you are at liberty to ignore him.
Sometimes it's hard to tell who's trolling who.
IMO.

Actually that's a fair comment John.

Edit: I've ignored his last post :lol: The one following this!

 

[Jacob]

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One of the problems Phil. They don't seem to realise that all wildflowers and plants are protected by law unless classed as pest species and pick and dig up whatever they fancy....

Ditto with farmers, who are notorious for destroying ancient woodland, habitat, archaeological sites, rights of access, allowing old buildings to go derelict, polluting rivers and streams, and so on, and on, and on. Not to mention the hunting and shooting faction who dominate and rigorously control vast areas of countryside for their own purposes - which brings us back to the Kinder protest!
Land owners who can't cope with their obligations to the wider community should perhaps sell up and find somewhere more congenial, away from the riff-raff. Antarctica?

NB I am not the troll in this thread, which I think is pretty clear to all, except the trolls of course, which seems to include the usual suspects!

 

[RogerS]

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NB I am not the troll in this thread, which I think is pretty clear to all, except the trolls of course, which seems to include the usual suspects!

Now you are just being plain daft, Jacob. Go back to the start of the thread and read the first 11 posts. All in a similar and relatively jocular vein.

And then post 12 from you. Full of anecdotes which you decry in others. Emotive words designed to fire up controversy. Basically trolling.