US Election November 5th

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Anyway, let's look to the likely future (nothing ground breaking here, but interesting nonetheless):



I watched that vid, 'cos I've been listening to Scaramucci a fair bit this last 6 months. I'm pretty sure Musk is capable of turning himself into any shape of moral pretzel, but if Trump is really the way Scaramucci says he is, probably won't be long before Trump's ego leads him into some kind of conflict with Musk.

Blimey, that Marjorie Taylor Green woman is low life. Some talk about Homeland Security position for her they said, lmao. Her job is to be the uneducated i-d-i-o-t every uneducated i-d-i-o-t identifies with so they can whine about being ridiculed.

The forum's i-d-i-o-t thing is going to get old pretty quick.
 
How will I live now. My life will never be the same.
No I meant AJPTaylor above. He was getting a bit overexcited.
I listen to your every word selectortone, even if I don't agree with you!
 
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Trump speech on...... free speech.............

 
Straight from the Guardian reader's handbook I see!
Sorry but I just don't subscribe to left wing total nonsense...if that upsets people enough to put me on ignore it says far more about them than me.
In all the years I've been visiting internet forums I've never once put anyone on ignore no matter how obnoxious they came across in their posts toward me nor have I ever reported a post made by someone.

It says an awful lot about their character or should I say lack of it that they have to put someone on ignore because they disagree with other party's perspectives.
If they feel hurt enough to put someone on ignore simply for disagreeing then might I suggest that they refrain from involving themselves in subjects like politics as it usually means there is likely to be a conflict of opinions and we wouldn't want any of them to feel hurt now would we?
Tony you're a stuck record on this irrational fear of "the left".

I don't read the Grauniad, nor have I got anyone on ignore (I'm not even sure how you've vectored onto that subject in response to one of my posts 🤷‍♂️)
 
I watched that vid, 'cos I've been listening to Scaramucci a fair bit this last 6 months. I'm pretty sure Musk is capable of turning himself into any shape of moral pretzel, but if Trump is really the way Scaramucci says he is, probably won't be long before Trump's ego leads him into some kind of conflict with Musk.

Blimey, that Marjorie Taylor Green woman is low life. Some talk about Homeland Security position for her they said, lmao. Her job is to be the uneducated i-d-i-o-t every uneducated i-d-i-o-t identifies with so they can whine about being ridiculed.

The forum's i-d-i-o-t thing is going to get old pretty quick.
Yea, it'll be interesting to see how two massively egotistical but famously thin-skinned individuals (Trump and Musk) get on over the next few months. I'll be amazed if they don't end up falling out.

MTG is basically what happens when evolution runs in reverse. She's breaktakingly thick, and exceptionally odious.
 
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I watched that vid, 'cos I've been listening to Scaramucci a fair bit this last 6 months. I'm pretty sure Musk is capable of turning himself into any shape of moral pretzel, but if Trump is really the way Scaramucci says he is, probably won't be long before Trump's ego leads him into some kind of conflict with Musk.

Blimey, that Marjorie Taylor Green woman is low life. Some talk about Homeland Security position for her they said, lmao. Her job is to be the uneducated i-d-i-o-t every uneducated i-d-i-o-t identifies with so they can whine about being ridiculed.

The forum's i-d-i-o-t thing is going to get old pretty quick.
It will be like being a member of the Kim Jong Un regime….you either go out and torture people below you, as instructed or you get tortured yourself.

Anybody with a shred of integrity is in for a very rough ride as they disappear down the black hole
 
Trump speech on...... free speech.............


Strewth! More and more like Hitler every day. He reads well. They edited out pauses for breath.
Who wrote it? Musk & Co I guess.
If that's a taste of things to come things will really get "interesting".
 
Trump speech on...... free speech.............


So, Elon gets his way, a witch hunt for those who dared censor bigoted, racist, misogynist (etc) speech, and mis/ dis-information cannot be identified as such. Those who own the means of communication can indoctrinate at will without any form of control. The next four years will enter the history books alongside other such extremist episodes of human failure. The man is an utter tyrant, the US a dysfunctional state.
 
So, Elon gets his way, a witch hunt for those who dared censor bigoted, racist, misogynist (etc) speech, and mis/ dis-information cannot be identified as such. Those who own the means of communication can indoctrinate at will without any form of control. The next four years will enter the history books alongside other such extremist episodes of human failure. The man is an utter tyrant, the US a dysfunctional state.
So... does that mean that anyone using the word "cis" on Twatter (sic) will no longer be censored, or does the removal of censorship only apply to things that Musk likes?

(It's rhetorical question, I know the answer)
 
On a more serious thought; I recently saw an interesting video about the (many) various "Alt-Right" alternatives to popular social media and messaging sites that have sprung up over the years. One common factor was that as soon as one announces itself as being for "free speech" (you know what's meant in that context) the site inevitably ends up being a cesspool of hate and conspiracy theories. Advertisers then don't want to be seen on the site, and they tend to disappear due to being unable to get an adequate revenue stream.

Should such social media companies end up with a (US) government mandated free-for-all in terms of content, and then lose advertisers, it'll be interesting to see what happens (given that the dollar tends to rule all).
 
You are starting to appear more than a little antisemitic Jacob. You say daft and provocative things and try to provide a smokescreen with your endless internet links. It's quite odious behaviour at times as you are unable to take ownership when you are offensive.
Not taking sides here but reading Jacob's posts about the situation in Israel, it seems to me that he is against the over the top retaliation to the Hamas attack, as a decent human being. I'm not getting any ant Semitic vibes from them at all.
Just an observation!
 
So, Elon gets his way, a witch hunt for those who dared censor bigoted, racist, misogynist (etc) speech, and mis/ dis-information cannot be identified as such. Those who own the means of communication can indoctrinate at will without any form of control. The next four years will enter the history books alongside other such extremist episodes of human failure. The man is an utter tyrant, the US a dysfunctional state.
I would be concerned about the four years.
It looks as though he will have control of both houses, maybe he will want to overturn the limit on how long he can serve.
After all why should we be robbed of his genius after just four years. And he is a genius, he told us so on some talk show.
What some of us think is an incoherent babble is apparently "the weave".
 
No I meant AJPTaylor above. He was getting a bit overexcited.
I listen to your every word selectortone, even if I don't agree with you!
I remember giving my grandfather (who lived through both wars) a history book by AJPT back in the '70s. after I'd read it for history O level. He just laughed and said to ignore it he was no more than a pig ignorant communist who knew nothing.
 
Saying anti semitic about someone who's purely criticising the State of Israel due to its actions is just wrong.
This is, of course, true. That Israeli actions in response to the 7th October attack by Hamas has resulted in immense suffering is beyond doubt. It would be preferable that the debate focus on workable solutions.

The UN convention on Genocide. This is not Israeli policy, although I suspect some on the political extreme right in Israel may be supportive (I would not). The International Court of Justice has yet to come to a conclusion on the matter bought before it by South Africa and others.

The original Hamas charter (1988) defines the struggle to be against the Jews and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in all of former mandatory Palestine and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel. This unambiguously evidences genocidal intent.

Yet one contributor seems inclined to describe Hamas as "resistance fighters" as if their actions are a somehow worthy response to those who challenge their genocidal ambitions.
 
Brexit put massive trade barriers between U.K. and its nearest and largest trade partner.

Planning for a better future means rejoining the Single Market, I presume you support that?
No. the UK voted to leave the EU and the EU did all they could to slow down the inevitable break up of the union by punishing the UK. At the time of the vote we were told that if we voted out we could expect a period of economic instability. It seems to me that the people accepted that in favour of the benefits of leaving.
The fact that business and industry had to adjust to the new situation is unsurprising.
 
Saying anti semitic about someone who's purely criticising the State of Israel due to its actions is just wrong.
Weaponising anti semitism is the goto propaganda by the state of Israel.

I wonder what Trump will do about Israel.

Trump supports Putin and Netanyahu, I guess Trump isn’t too well informed on geo politics
 
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