US Election November 5th

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Sixty three pages of speculation over that about which most contributors have zero influence.

The basic arguments made would fill no more than 2 or 3 pages - lots of repeats.

In just a few hours (possibly after a couple of weeks of protests, recounts etc we will know the answer.
We will have to deal with it, like it or not, just as the UK dealt with the recent Labour victory.

Nothing more to add!!
 
Since you are so unsure, would you like to provide evidence to the contrary of my points?

Crickets.
You said you are scared of Kamala Harris winning.

But you can’t put forward a single policy of hers that scares you.

Surely you must be able to think of something, “scare” is a strong emotion.
 
You said you are scared of Kamala Harris winning.

But you can’t put forward a single policy of hers that scares you.

Surely you must be able to think of something, “scare” is a strong emotion.
You confuse me, you replied to my remark where I laid out the areas Kamala worries me on, then you asked me to provide evidence to my points and I'm throwing it right back at you to provide evidence that disprove my concerns because my points have all been talking points throughout the entire campaign.

Furthermore, she's had 4 years to prove herself, something she hasn't done, compared to 4 years of stability under trump. On government policy and track record in office alone, trump is ahead for me.

You may feel differently about certain issues to me so may have a different outlook, that's fair.
 
I still wonder how, like in 2016, in a country of 270 million that these two are the best candidates that could be found.

As for the theory as to what will happen next with Agenda 25 and the rest, history will reflect on two people who didn't know when to quit.
 
concerns because my points have all been talking points throughout the entire campaign

Your talking points are just repeating Trump propaganda, they are not evidence or facts.

Trump is morally corrupt, he trades on fear, lies, propaganda, division.

Trump is morally corrupt and anybody who supports him has a question marks over his their own morality.


If you have children, I bet you teach them that lying, cheating, breaking the law is wrong………
 
Your talking points are just repeating Trump propaganda, they are not evidence or facts.

Trump is morally corrupt, he trades on fear, lies, propaganda, division.

Trump is morally corrupt and anybody who supports him has a question marks over his their own morality.


If you have children, I bet you teach them that lying, cheating, breaking the law is wrong………
Oh dear, someone's woken up to some bad news.
 
If Trump wins, every decent person in America will be upset.

I feel most sorry for the people of Ukrainr right now, as Putin might have a new ally
I'd imagine Putin's delighted with the way things are going, more than happy to 'do a deal' with the orange half-wit.
 
I'd imagine Putin's delighted with the way things are going, more than happy to 'do a deal' with the orange half-wit.
Unfortunately Trump is going to be all puffed up on his own importance and likely to start handing out ultimatums to Putin and Xi. Last time around he just didn’t have a clue and was ‘used’ as a photo opportunity. This time around he still doesn’t have a clue but now thinks he is fulfilling a destiny give to him by God.
 
If Trump wins, every decent person in America will be upset.

I feel most sorry for the people of Ukrainr right now, as Putin might have a new ally

To dismiss every Trump voter as an indecent person is exactly the behaviour that strengthens his base.

It will lead to a failure to understand the lives and requirements of that section of the population, making those people swing to an ever increasingly more extreme(?) position. That will likely strengthen the view of those who oppose them that they are indecent, pushing them further and further away.... And so the cycle continues.

What are the reasons and the preceeding events that have lead seemingly the majority of the voting US population opting for a Trump 2nd term? Once that is explored and understood, rather than dismissed as the result of simply poor education or moral degradation, there is the possibility to engage those people and finding common ground for a positive future relationship.
 
Yes. Ukraine will be part of Russia in five years. Putin does not think of it as a separate country and will now take it.

My guess is a ceasefire - then Putin will build up forces whilst Ukraine demobilises - round 2 will then be a push-over. Putin's patsies Orban and Fico will ensure Ukraine is not part of EU or NATO.
 
Oh dear, someone's woken up to some news.
It’s not bad news to me, I shall sit back with my popcorn and see how much the corruption can damage America.

It’s bad news for the American people
It’s bad news for the people of Ukraine
 
Well here I am in the battleground State of Pennsylvania it’s 2:45 in the morning and I have enormous pleasure in telling you that Donald J Trump will be the next President of the United States. Some pleasure is gained from the schadenfreude gained from the discomfort and angst of the miserable left wing Democrat press here who with the Democrat party have waged an extremely unpleasant war against a Political opponent.
He is determined to make America great again and I wish him all success, the average American is under the cosh and deserves a lot better than the present administration.
 
Oh dear. You can crow about it , but pretty sure the joke's on you if this makes you happy.
 
To dismiss every Trump voter as an indecent person is exactly the behaviour that strengthens his base.

It will lead to a failure to understand the lives and requirements of that section of the population, making those people swing to an ever increasingly more extreme(?) position. That will likely strengthen the view of those who oppose them that they are indecent, pushing them further and further away.... And so the cycle continues.

What are the reasons and the preceeding events that have lead seemingly the majority of the voting US population opting for a Trump 2nd term? Once that is explored and understood, rather than dismissed as the result of simply poor education or moral degradation, there is the possibility to engage those people and finding common ground for a positive future relationship.

To be honest, I think the Democrats biggest mistake was selecting a Californian leftie lawyer with a poor track record as their candidate. Too many open goals for Trump to aim at.

Don't blame the voters.
 
Well here I am in the battleground State of Pennsylvania it’s 2:45 in the morning and I have enormous pleasure in telling you that Donald J Trump will be the next President of the United States. Some pleasure is gained from the schadenfreude gained from the discomfort and angst of the miserable left wing Democrat press here who with the Democrat party have waged an extremely unpleasant war against a Political opponent.
He is determined to make America great again and I wish him all success, the average American is under the cosh and deserves a lot better than the present administration.
If he does as he claims, and introduces tariffs, then the rest of the world will retaliate.

So far from making America rich again he will make everyone poorer.
 
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