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[ProShop]

OK, on a serious note, the noise can be quite intimidating, especially when you have the profile cutters mounted as their shape disturbs the air so much.
In time you will get used to it (honest).

I remember once in a workshop I worked in some years ago, we had a new 10hp spindle moulder installed. I say new :roll: it was new to us. Anyway when we had to make some deep skirting mouldings, the cutter block was huge and it took some lifting onto the spindle :roll: . And when it started up, it was a 2 stage start, the first stage seems okay it made a bit of noise (a bit like a lion cub with a sore throat). But when the second stage kicked in.... Well everyone in the shop ran for the exit :shock: :roll: . It sounded like a full pride of adult Lions fighting over a very small breakfast :roll: . Very scary .

 

[JFC]

I bet that was funny to see :lol:
Ive just run a few test peices past and its seems to be cutting lovely
I think im going to need to invest in some more pressure clamps though .
The pressure roller device on P67 of the felder catalougue looks good , any one use it ?


:shock: It's begun , i've just been on the phone to felder ](*,) ](*,)

 

[Scrit]

Most of the Felder safety gear, like those rollers for example, are actually made by a firm called Aigner. This American catalogue has a large part of their range - one UK distributor is Safety Training Woodworking in Cambridge, although firms like NLS should be able to supply as well

Scrit

 

[JFC]

NLS said they only do cutters , Safety training woodworking where suggesting the £700 system in your link Scrit . Then Felder offered me a spring guide thingy ( that ive been trying to get hold of for over a year ) For £20 . :roll:
Anyway the spindle is great :tool: (hammer) I rebated stock for six windows in no time with no chipping :shock:

 

[engineer one]

does that mean your prices are going down :twisted: :lol:

sounds good though mate well done,
just play safely :roll:

paul :wink:

 

[Scrit]

Sorry about the NLS thing - I did meet someone from one of the tooling firms on Woodmex a few years back who reckoned they could get Aigner stuff. Though that was NLS - obviously wasn't.....

That £700 would be for something completely different. Get them to send you an Aigner catalogue and you'll get a better idea (or follow the link to the US site for the catalogue numbers). I thought that the £20 wheel set still required a mounting rail and mounting bracket as well as the wheel, or have I read the catalogue incorrectly? And the wheel doesn't give pressure support on taller pieces in any case. Why not just make-up some featherboards?

Scrit

 

[JFC]

Safety training said about £200 on the phone but when i followed your link it showed the thing safety explained to me at £700 . The £20 was just for a pressure clamp not the wheel set .
I must say at this point , thanks for all your help Scrit .
I have started to make something up as i was getting a little concerned about not being able to see the cutter but seeing timber dissapear :shock:
Pics to follow :wink:

 

[Scrit]

The link was to an American site where the prices are in dollars. They bear little relationship to the European prices, but I added the link to show the breadth of safety-related products available from Aigbner as opposed to the much smaller range from Felder

Scrit

 

[JFC]

I was thinking of bending a thin peice of timberaround the oak so there is some give in it but that may snap so im racking my brains for something i can put on the front that will hold the work and have some give :-k

 

[DomValente]

Don't get the spring clamp thingy, it's a wate of space.
I've used safety training and generally they are cheaper than Felder.
The gentleman from there,his name escapes me, arrived at my workshop with a trailer full of timber and many useful extras for my machine he then gave me a full days training,8 'til 6 on the machine and yes sold me a couple of items.
He was knowledgeable and an altogether nice chap. This was about 7 years ago and I think I paid £120.00.
Well worth it because without this basic teaching I'm sure disaster would have struck.
Have fun.Be safe

 

[DomValente]

Just read your last post Aigner do a very nice set of side pressure wheels that will do the job perfectly

 

[Scrit]

Jason

A couple of comments on that picture.

1. The front Shaw guard piece needs a leaf spring like the upper one to be effective (for those who don't know Jason's front guarding is referred to as a Shaw, or in the EU "Suva", guard)

2. You really need to add plywood/hardwood fence plates to your cst iron fence plates which overlap a bit more at the middle - saves wear on the metal fence plates and makes it less likely that you'll end up "adjusting" a metal fence plate into a steel cutter. The wooden fence plates also make it easier to attach temporary jigs, guards, etc to the machine

3. For through cuts like rebates the horseshoe fence should be loosened and pulled right forward and the fence plates opened to give a generous gap. A through fence such as a piece of 9mm MDF of plywood is then screwed across the front of the plywood fence plates, the spindle started and the horseshoe fence carefully pushed back to plunge the cutter through it, making in effect a zero clearance fence plate. The horseshoe fence is then locked and fine adjustments made as required.

4. You also need a dust extraction box over the top of the fence. Heavy rebating generates a lot of waste

Scrit

 

[Scrit]

Just read your last post Aigner do a very nice set of side pressure wheels that will do the job perfectly

But he doesn't need them. All that's needed is a leaf spring for the existing Shaw guard

Scrit

 

[ProShop]

JFC, Would you like a pic of an actual leaf spring as Scrit suggests ?.
It would make your life so much easier & safer. You could quite easily make one.

The Felder pressure module is over £160 and only a single wheel type complete with clamp, but it's mainly used for curved moulding and imho it's not quite the thing you really need looking at your photo.

 

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[JFC]

Yes please all pics are very welcome , i just made that up with the bits i had . Did i get it right :shock: :lol:

 

[DomValente]

Just read your last post Aigner do a very nice set of side pressure wheels that will do the job perfectly

But he doesn't need them. All that's needed is a leaf spring for the existing Shaw guard

Need!! Who said anything about need, he should want them, nay, desire them, they're so pretty

 

[DomValente]

Hmm, haven't got the hang of the quote thingy.

 

[Scrit]

Need!! Who said anything about need, he should want them, nay, desire them, they're so pretty

:lol:

 

[DomValente]

Oh Thanks, I feel so much better now.