OK so its Tom K's word versus an overwhelming consensus of the medical profession, scientists, statisticians, governmental agencies, and an actual excess death toll which will be higher than any year since Spanish Flu (during which we did not lockdown and our medical resources for treatment were incomparably more crude).
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OK so its Tom K's word versus an overwhelming consensus of the medical profession, scientists, statisticians, governmental agencies, and an actual excess death toll which will be higher than any year since Spanish Flu (during which we did not lockdown and our medical resources for treatment were incomparably more crude).
Now you're being absurd.
No, it's my view and that of a huge swathe of scientists, members of the medical profession and simple observation. Where are the bodies, where are the sick people? Not on Telegraph Hill are they!
No just not blinkered or willing to blindly follow when the facts don't add up.
Trainee neophyte
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For those of us who sport our tin foil hats with aplomb:
https://campusreform.org/?id=16463
In other words, Covidiots were using facts, which is never a good thing. The presentation is in the link above - it's it's a YouTube slideshow, but I don't have time for that, so haven't watched it all. Obviously this is seriously dangerous misinformation, but you might be interested to see what information is not allowed to be published by an internal newspaper from one of the world's leading teaching hospitals.
https://campusreform.org/?id=16463
In other words, Covidiots were using facts, which is never a good thing. The presentation is in the link above - it's it's a YouTube slideshow, but I don't have time for that, so haven't watched it all. Obviously this is seriously dangerous misinformation, but you might be interested to see what information is not allowed to be published by an internal newspaper from one of the world's leading teaching hospitals.
There’s an easy way of anyone riding themselves of many of today’s diseases just by studying and implementing Ketogenic diet(originally devised for epilepsy before big pharma found ways of making money) or and fasting(look at Dr Jason Fung) for getting rid of inflammation and poor health. Also look at breathing through your nose at all times(Patrick McKeown Buteyko and Oxygen Advantage). Simple and free with no drugs required.
Regards, Dave
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Are you saying that this is true? "....COVID-19 “had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people” and that the virus “has also not increased the total number of deaths” in comparison to historical data."
We'll find out in a few years time. I (and a large number of trained medical professionals if you listen to news that isn't part of the MSM) are of the view that 2019/20 will not show a large increase in overall rate when compared to other years and whatever increase there is will be comparable to one of the regular "flu years".
Really what is happening is that almost invariably very old people are dying, either old people dying a few weeks/months sooner than we might have expected or dying later than they "should have" (harvesting effect). So once we have had a couple of years of low mortality (almost certain to happen) to rebalance things the numbers will pan out.
Sadly though those numbers will be skewed by excess deaths in the younger age brackets from things totally unrelated to C19 the disease but related to the C19 response. As I have mentioned before I have a family member who is going to die from cancer several years sooner than they would have due to the C19 response.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
So there's nothing going in at all at the moment?
I don't understand the question.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Just "one of the regular "flu years".?
I should think the bodies were either cremated or buried.
The sick people will most likely be in hospital. Or self isolating.
Would you prefer the government dropped off the dead at your house so you can count them? Your wheelie bin is going to fill up pretty quick.
What's your supply of Kleenex like? Got a big front room and a spare sofa? The NHS could send everyone round to your house if you like then you could keep your own tally.
Maybe you have a point though... In fact... All these people that died from old age since the dawn of time. Where are their bodies? Maybe you've hit on an international conspiracy funded by hospitals and undertakers keeping us oppressed by making us believe we can get ill and die when actually we are immortal beings! Think of the profits they must be making. I bet this is linked to the illuminati and the lizard people.
Next they'll be telling us the earth is actually a globe orbited by the sun!
Yep, they come along at least once a decade, usually twice. Here is an article about the 2017/18 winter, 50k excess winter deaths, do you remember a lock down, mask wearing, hysteria etc? Remember as well that was 50k WITH a vaccine, though as the article states that winter the vaccine was not a very good one but undoubtedly it had some effect at bringing the numbers down. Also the 50k only covers Dec-March.
https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/u...towards-50000-excess-winter-deaths-last-year/
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Current covid deaths UK approach 70k on a rising graph and winter not over yet. Thats in addition to any seasonal flu effects
Flu, this year? Doesn't exist according to the media! lol.
You are adding together 2 winter seasons remember, the first "wave" was in winter 19/20, we are now in winter 20/21.
You will note I never denied higher deaths this year, it's going to be an outlier of course, I just don't think it worthy of the response the government has had and in the long term the "cure" is most certainly worse than the disease. If you are retired and on a secure income then the "cure" doesn't affect you, try and put yourself in the shoes of someone in their 20's who is looking in a failed business and is looking at 20 years of hardship and a shorter lifespan because of this and then remember again, average age of death from C19 is 83............
All the people "saved" by this governments response won't be alive to vote for them in the next general election they are so old.
Misterdog
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'Science' is making trillions from this pandemic.
There is no patent available on Vit C, D and Zinc. therefore little money for science to earn from it.
The BAME community is suffering more from this disease than those without 'tinted' skin colour. This prevents them from producing Vit D naturally from sunlight as effectively as the none coloured population.
There is plenty of evidence to show that Vit D is essential to optimise the immune system.
The NHS prescribes Vit D and Folic acid (B9) to my flat bound 93 year old mother with Alzheimers.
Prescribing vitamin supplements would never have happened 20 years ago.
Dr Mercola has been advocating good food, good sleep and exercise for decades, yet he is vilified by the 'scientific' (well the big money side of it)
community, because he challenges their behaviour.
More people die in the US from prescription Opioid pain killers, than from street drugs.
Without those like Dr Mercola, the gravy train would be left to run.
Big Pharma spends billions 'lobbying' governments and medical professionals.
'Our pain killers are non addictive'
People tend to think that the scientific medical community only act to serve the good of mankind.
They also like to make a lot of money.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Never heard of Dr Mercola but I don't anybody would argue against "good food, good sleep and exercise" being good for you!
PS Looked him up. He's a quack and makes millions Dr. Joseph Mercola Ordered to Stop Illegal Claims | Quackwatch
billw
The Tattooed One
My mum's been on vitamin D tablets from her GP for well over 20 years, she questions it occasionally but the verdict is they're good for you.
billw
The Tattooed One
I don't think you need a Doctorate to figure that diet, sleep, and exercise are quite important components of a healthy lifestyle. The guy seems to have tapped into the huge gullible and conspiracy laden society in the States and is raking it in. Can't blame him to be honest. Fools and their money....
Misterdog
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As I mentioned in my post.
How do you view those manufacturing and prescribing Opioid pain killers, making millions and killing thousands ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55418874
They are not 'quacks' because they shield under the 'medical science' umbrella.
Strangely these are the very people who wish to tarnish Dr Mercola, I wonder why.
The internet is littered with falsehoods, it's your choice whether you follow the path you are fed by government and mainstream capitalism or look beyond it and make up your own mind.
Of course it is easier to believe what you are spoon fed.
The Opioiod story is currently fashionable in the media, (the problem is also rife in the UK).
Though Dr Mercola was presenting the evidence years ago.
It's your choice, though if your research starts and ends on the first Google hit then your opinions are not well researched in my view.
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