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Still waking up not dead in the morning
You need a hobbyReally? I thought Starmer was targeting the far-right
You need a hobbyReally? I thought Starmer was targeting the far-right
The scale matters massivelyI would rather be represented by people who don't seek to line their pockets at our expense, whatever their political colour, or the scale of such behaviour.
there are plenty of them, you just need to do the research.Problem being where do you find an honest hard working politician? I am sure they are out there, but how to spot them?
Future Prime Minister.have a look at Darren Jones
That's libellous and I would delete it. What they did was both claim expenses on the same London house (but only to the value of a single MP's allowance). Some Tory MP complained that they spent more time in London rather than Yorkshire so the London house should have been their primary residence and not eligible for the allowance. They were cleared.So do you prefer the likes of Yvette Cooper, who thought it perfectly reasonable for her and her hubby to claim expenses on both their houses, by one saying house A was their main residence, whilst the other made an identical claim on house B.
no thats the GreensReally? I thought Starmer was targeting the far-right vote?
So why did they pay the money back?That's libellous and I would delete it. What they did was both claim expenses on the same London house (but only to the value of a single MP's allowance). Some Tory MP complained that they spent more time in London rather than Yorkshire so the London house should have been their primary residence and not eligible for the allowance. They were cleared.
The scale matters massively
you seem to want to make some equivalence between Angela Rayner possibly underpaying her tax by £1500 and £4billion of bogus PPE contracts
or the £200m Michelle Mone took and Yvette Cooper
The reality is the public moan when MPs put up their salaries so we have this situation where a council leader might earn £350k and an MP £85k.
If you dont want MPs to milk expenses then they gotta be paid substantially more
there are plenty of them, you just need to do the research.
Lots of MPs work extremely hard and believe in doing public service
have a look at Darren Jones
Chris Bryant
Its easy to call all politicians "liars" but social media forces them to talk in terms which avoids them being taken out of context in future
also under FPTP politicans have to speak to the media giving out rather bland statements than can speak to different voters and mean different things
I well remember the beasting she got from the audience on Question Time. All she could keep repeating like a cracked record was that it wasn't technically a breach of the rules. The fact that it was plainly immoral seemed to be lost on her entirely. And you think a person with such a clearly deranged moral compass would make a good home secretary??That's libellous and I would delete it. What they did was both claim expenses on the same London house (but only to the value of a single MP's allowance). Some Tory MP complained that they spent more time in London rather than Yorkshire so the London house should have been their primary residence and not eligible for the allowance. They were cleared.
I did not say I condoned it in any way, I was debating the point you made about honesty in politicsIf you don't want their hand in the till you have to pay them more? Very insulting to those who found it perfectly possible to make ends meet without resorting to this sort of behaviour, Jeremy Corbyn being a notable example, I am quite sure there are many others. Funny isn't it how left wingers are ready to jump up and down and scream sleaze whenever a Tory does something dishonest, when it's one of their own items becomes a mistake, an oversight or whatever.
not at all, I dont condone any improper behaviourFunny isn't it how left wingers are ready to jump up and down and scream sleaze whenever a Tory does something dishonest, when it's one of their own items becomes a mistake, an oversight or whatever.
YesI well remember the beasting she got from the audience on Question Time. All she could keep repeating like a cracked record was that it wasn't technically a breach of the rules. The fact that it was plainly immoral seemed to be lost on her entirely. And you think a person with such a clearly deranged moral compass would make a good home secretary??
Interesting factoid. Farage's total vote in all his 7 failed parliamentary elections (36k) was less than Diane Abbott's in just one, even in 2019 (40k). The far right are totally ******* irrelevant and always have been.Really? I thought Starmer was targeting the far-right vote?
I wish that was true, I really doThe far right are totally ******* irrelevant and always have been.
I am not a tribal anything. I will happily confess to being a conservative, with a small c.I did not say I condoned it in any way, I was debating the point you made about honesty in politics
I am guessing you are a tribal Conservative voter as youve brought up something that happened 17 years ago
not at all, I dont condone any improper behaviour
but you are glossing over the lack of equivalence between Yvette Cooper + Ed Balls with Conservatives dishing out bogus PPE contracts worth £4b or Michelle Mone £200m
Ghastly individuals both, so I will give you that one.Yes
compared to Prit Patel and Suella Braverman absolutely
I’m not sure your interpretation of what happened is correct.I well remember the beasting she got from the audience on Question Time. All she could keep repeating like a cracked record was that it wasn't technically a breach of the rules. The fact that it was plainly immoral seemed to be lost on her entirely. And you think a person with such a clearly deranged moral compass would make a good home secretary??
I can’t imagine many small c conservatives feeling the Conservatives since 2019 represents them.I will happily confess to being a conservative, with a small c
They did.I think the Tories had a massive opportunity with the majority Boris had to show us what they were about.
But what about the pandemic, ie Covid which has cost the UK about 350 billion and brought the economy to a standstill plus poor old Borris was never the same after catching it, it probably left him with something like brain fog and he should never have remained PM.I think the Tories had a massive opportunity with the majority Boris had to show us what they were about.
No commentpoor old Borris
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