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Doctor Who is, in very significant part, literally about aliens. I am genuinely interested to hear a more complete explanation of how it can be 'skewed towards over-diversity'
Yes too many aliens in Doctor Who. More like Doctor Woke. :unsure:
We always watch Vera in preference, or Benidorm - got the boxed set in fact.
 
This is a more recent example of what I mentioned earlier. Another casting mistake in my view was Timothy Spall as the Duke of Norfolk. For what little I saw of the show he wasn’t convincing. I have very much enjoyed his acting in other productions though.

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I admit to not having read Wolf Hall, and also to not knowing in what roles which actors were cast so recklessly that it's hurt people's jaws and their feelings – BUT it should be noted for context that the idea of Black British Tudors is not just some made up thing:

https://sellymanormuseum.org.uk/new...dors came to Britain,them to Portugal in 1444.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...k-not-slave-in-sight-miranda-kaufmann-history

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zb84cmn
 
Doctor Who is, in very significant part, literally about aliens. I am genuinely interested to hear a more complete explanation of how it can be 'skewed towards over-diversity'
Do I need to? Well, OK. I suppose a gay, black Dr Who is a severe skew.
 
Do I need to? Well, OK. I suppose a gay, black Dr Who is a severe skew.
I’m not a fan, but it is my understanding that Dr Who reincarnates in a different body each time. I would have thought that the long run of white male bodies was more af a skew?
Did anyone complain about that?
 
I’m not a fan, but it is my understanding that Dr Who reincarnates in a different body each time. I would have thought that the long run of white male bodies was more af a skew?
Did anyone complain about that?
Well, the viewing figures are down. Is that because Russell T Davies has run out of stimulating stories? Or because of the skew? Or, is it all just one big coincidence?
 
Do I need to? Well, OK. I suppose a gay, black Dr Who is a severe skew.
What about Dr Finlay, he wasn't a stereotypical average sort of figure. In fact the whole cast was white and Scottish! It didn't bother me personally but I'm surprised nobody objected.

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Why not consider the character, personality, acting ability and other aspects of a drama that make it a drama. It amazes me that so many, even today, can't ignore skin colours. They seem easily able to ignore every other aspect of the humans involved in such dramas.

On the other hand, it often seems that the British acting profession is infested with a certain social class, as are the mass media production factories in general. Perhaps there should be a more "realistic" balance enforced based on our dearly-loved class system? Toffs playing peasants and every other kind of person just seems wrong. :)
 
What about Dr Finlay, he wasn't a stereotypical average sort of figure. In fact the whole cast was white and Scottish! It didn't bother me personally but I'm surprised nobody objected.

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You're right. Doctor Finley's Casebook was set in Scotland and showed how the system worked at the time. Nobody around, in those days, who felt the need to object to much.
 
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On the other hand, it often seems that the British acting profession is infested with a certain social class, as are the mass media production factories in general. Perhaps there should be a more "realistic" balance enforced based on our dearly-loved class system? Toffs playing peasants and every other kind of person just seems wrong. :)
Private schools invest far more in the arts by a huge margin. https://www.etoncollege.com/outside-the-classroom/drama/
It's money well spent and makes these posh kids highly employable, most noticeably in music and the stage.
State schools can do it - my old school was very strong on drama and produced one or two well known names; Graham Haberfield (Coro. St) Tim Dalton (James Bond etc) were my contemporaries and I expect there were others.
The arts in general employs a lot of people and is also a massive export industry. Cutting back on them is a huge mistake and waste of talent, as is "austerity" in all its guises.
 
We seem to have reached the stage where in pursuit of diversity, every variant of race, religion, colour and sexual orientation needs to be represented in all media - particularly advertising and TV programming.

It is in sharp contrast with 2-3 decades ago which often failed to acknowledge that any other than white heterosexual even existed.

Perceptions - live in London or some other large cities and diversity is immediately evident as you step into the nearest supermarket or high street. Live in the leafy verdant countryside or provincial town and diversity is represented by the local curry house (with apologies).

I like to think I am wholly open to all variants colour, sex or otherwise). However I do feel that white, beer swilling, heterosexual men are now disproportionately unrepresented. It would no doubt be an affront to the "woke" to assert they should be given greater equality in the media in future.
 
I admit to not having read Wolf Hall, and also to not knowing in what roles which actors were cast so recklessly that it's hurt people's jaws and their feelings – BUT it should be noted for context that the idea of Black British Tudors is not just some made up thing:

https://sellymanormuseum.org.uk/news/2023-10-02/black-tudors-free-men-and-women-in-england#:~:text=Black Tudors came to Britain,them to Portugal in 1444.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...k-not-slave-in-sight-miranda-kaufmann-history

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zb84cmn
There have been numerous attempts to re write history in recent years.

 
Janet! Fetch the whiskey!
Scotch is always supposed to be "whisky", as far as I know, and Irish "whiskey", but it seems that our American cousins almost invariably use the latter, and they generate many times more written text than the British. In short we're being swamped with whiskey.
Apologies for the apostrophe, Terry. I hope it did not impair your understanding.
 
We seem to have reached the stage where in pursuit of diversity, every variant of race, religion, colour and sexual orientation needs to be represented in all media - particularly advertising and TV programming.

It is in sharp contrast with 2-3 decades ago which often failed to acknowledge that any other than white heterosexual even existed.

Perceptions - live in London or some other large cities and diversity is immediately evident as you step into the nearest supermarket or high street. Live in the leafy verdant countryside or provincial town and diversity is represented by the local curry house (with apologies).

I like to think I am wholly open to all variants colour, sex or otherwise). However I do feel that white, beer swilling, heterosexual men are now disproportionately unrepresented. It would no doubt be an affront to the "woke" to assert they should be given greater equality in the media in future.
I don't want to add to the confusion, speaking for myself here, but it is quite possible to be white, beer-swilling, heterosexual, and woke!
 
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