Gotten

[selectortone]

Unless we've all suddenly become Americans the word is got. Not gotten. It may have been old usage here, but it isn't now. Similarly the words are anyway and aeroplane, not anyways or airplane. And the plural of aircraft is aircraft, not (ugh!) aircrafts. And it's 'may I have' not 'can I get'. Come on chaps (not guys) let's try to (not and) maintain some standards.

Thank you for your attention; I feel better for that. And the opportunity to use a semicolon.

 

[Yojevol]

Language is constantly changing. Get your head around this dating from (well, work it out for yourself):-
‘Thus endeth Nychodemus gospell. Enprynted at London in Fletestrete at the sygne of the sonne by Wynkyn de Worde prynter unto the moost excellent pryncesse my lady the kynges moder. In the yere of our lorde god. M. CCCCC. ix. the. xxiii. daye of Marche.’
Taken from my current reading, 'The Bookmakers' by Adam Smith
Brian

 

[Blister]

Also " Getgo " ???!!!

 

[John Brown]

"It may have been old usage here, but it isn't now."
Strange attitude, so it's allowable for to change once/one way, but that's it, for ever?

 

[sneggysteve]

"It could OF been nice"

 

[selectortone]

"It may have been old usage here, but it isn't now."
Strange attitude, so it's allowable for to change once/one way, but that's it, for ever?

Fair point.

 

[John Brown]

Fair point.

I have an American wife and three stepdaughters, so I'm bilingual by necessity, but I have to admit that I still wince at "different than", and have given up trying to explain the difference between"bring" and "take", on which point, I have noticed that the bring/take thing seems to occur in Irish literature as well, so maybe it's old usage too.

 

[Lons]

The one that gets to me every time is when people write brought when they mean bought.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

"It could OF been nice"

I would of thought. Get off of your high horse.

(pe2dave - I think you missed something there. )

 

[Phil Pascoe]

The one that gets to me every time is when people write brought when they mean bought.

and defiant instead of definite. I suspect that might be predictive text, though.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

I ... have given up trying to explain the difference between"bring" and "take", on which point, I have noticed that the bring/take thing seems to occur in Irish literature as well, so maybe it's old usage too.

Old people here used to use borrow and lend interchangeably.

 

[John Brown]

and defiant instead of definite. I suspect that might be predictive text, though.

I agree that's it's probably predictive text, but as a result of "definate" being typed.

 

[Cozzer]

Also " Getgo " ???!!!

Yes.
For some reason, that gets me too.
What's wrong with "start"?

In fairness, I do use "gotten" at times. And "amn't", which is apparently wrong, but I've never understood why....

 

[Fitzroy]

When I lived in Russia one thing that struck we was how the management of the language reflected the culture. The Oxford English dictionary is the best compendium of the language in use at the time and incorporates new words every year. The Russian equivalent dictionary reflects the language as it 'should be'. It does not contain slang and the entry of new words is uncommon. Language evolves all the time, the challenge at the moment is that British English is being assaulted by American English via the internet and the rate of change is unpleasant. I am constantly correcting my children's Americanisms but I myself at times find myself using a term that is just more useful, like 'sorry my bad'.

Fitz.

 

[John Brown]

When I lived in Russia one thing that struck we was how the management of the language reflected the culture. The Oxford English dictionary is the best compendium of the language in use at the time and incorporates new words every year. The Russian equivalent dictionary reflects the language as it 'should be'. It does not contain slang and the entry of new words is uncommon. Language evolves all the time, the challenge at the moment is that British English is being assaulted by American in English via the internet and the rate of change is unpleasant. I am constantly correcting my children's Americanisms but I myself at times find myself using a term that is just more useful, like 'sorry my bad'.

Fitz.

I think it's impossible to stem the tide of change in language, and attempting to do so could make you look like a Cnut.
Although, as I understand things, he was simply trying to demonstrate to his courtiers that there were things beyond his control.

 

[John Brown]

Hmmm. Sprout has been substituted here for the name of a king who allegedly tried to turn back the tide. I wonder what other anagrams of rude words are subject to the blue pencil?

 

[niall Y]

Also " Getgo " ???!!!

That does make me cringe. What's wrong with "from the outset"?

 

[John Brown]

That does make me cringe. What's wrong with "from the outset"?

Warning to all language chauvinists, don't watch "Ted Lasso". In fact you'll probably have to stop watching anything before too long!

 

[Phil Pascoe]

That does make me cringe. What's wrong with "from the outset"?

Start ......... beginning ........

 

[Phil Pascoe]

When I lived in Russia one thing that struck we was how the management of the language reflected the culture. The Oxford English dictionary is the best compendium of the language in use at the time and incorporates new words every year. The Russian equivalent dictionary reflects the language as it 'should be'. It does not contain slang and the entry of new words is uncommon. Language evolves all the time, the challenge at the moment is that British English is being assaulted by American in English via the internet and the rate of change is unpleasant. I am constantly correcting my children's Americanisms but I myself at times find myself using a term that is just more useful, like 'sorry my bad'.

Fitz.

Yes, the OED records common usage, not correct usage.