Electric vehicles

[Spectric]

In other BEV news we'll hear what future the Vauxhall plants at Ellesmere Port and Luton have

Probably go the same way as Fords and production ends up elsewhere including any R&D.

 

[Jameshow]

In other BEV news we'll hear what future the Vauxhall plants at Ellesmere Port and Luton have, or haven't, in the next few weeks as Stellantis consider if the UK's ZEV mandate is realistic.

That will be a really stupid Labour gov then, making us close our plants before the EU EV switch over deadline!

 

[Noel]

That will be a really stupid Labour gov then, making us close our plants before the EU EV switch over deadline!

It was a Tory move towards end of last year some time and now seemingly continued by Labour. I don't recall all the figures but I think for this year manufacturers have to SELL 22% of their stock as BEVs. Next year it goes to 28% and so forth to 100% in 2035.
SELL is the operative word rather than manufacture or produce. Of course the problem is if the market isn't buying the applicable amount of product why would the manufacturers make product that won't sell? The other issue is that there is a fine (£15 grand I think) per BEV car that is not sold so it'll be a case of losing cost and profit as well as a fine. I think manufacturers can swap and borrow their ZEV vouchers amongst one and other but still not an answer to basically throwing money, twice, in the ditch. Makes little sense to me.
Other markets have similar mandates but most have adjusted them, to include Hybrid etc and many have financial subsidies to tempt buyers.

 

[Vulcan]

This is a very interesting video if you have time to watch it.

 

[Ozi]

well the weather is a little warmer round here and I've always got my heated steering wheel if I'm driving


The figures published have actually been achieved in a testing lab. It's not real world I agree but is accurate for comparison between models.


BUT it consumes more fuel when first started than if it wa sleft running dependent on the time it's left running. If you stop for 2 seconds and the engine is shut down I feel it's highly likely more fuel would be used compared to leaving the engine running. It depends really on how long the stop is.


As stated above, it depends on the length of time it's stopped. If for example it's bumper to bumper traffic, move forward a couple a metres then stop for a couple of seconds (the engine stops) then move forward another couple of metres etc Im sure that would use more fuel than leaving the engine idling. If youre stopped for 50 seconds for traffic lights then the jury is out if that would save fuel, my guess is it wont, it may reduce emissions a little.


How about you getting your head around that?

There has been a lot of testing done on the benefit of cutting the engine, it varies vehicle to vehicle but the break even point is generally around 12 to 15 seconds, driving style makes a lot of difference but generally don't move up if it's less than a car length. to state the very obvious some of the best things you can do to improve economy are, keep your tire pressures correct, keep air filters clean and don't carry unnecessary weight around.