Domino or not domino

[Mr Ed]

Heres a slightly shocking fact; I was idly thumbing through my folder of the pictures of all the things I have ever made this evening and realised that of the items from the last couple of years, not many would have utilised a Domino. I daresay that if you had one it would begin to determine the way things were done so it could be used, but I'm not sure if thats right for me...

oh my god, I've become the next Woodbloke - another Domino ditherer!

Ed

 

[wizer]

Well I've always said it depends on the kind of work that you are doing and how much enjoyment you get out of cutting proper joinery. The domino is for joinery tasks where you need strength and speed. If you are making fine pieces of furniture from hardwood then perhaps you don't want to use a man made loose tenon. If you are doing a mixture of furniture, fitted installations or work that involves lots of repetition, then the Domino excels. I don't think any of us believe that the domino is the end of the traditional M&T joint, far from it. It's a tool for speeding up repetitive, non critical joinery.

 

[Boz62]

The cutters are square-ground, not bullet-shaped. At least, mine are.

My bad. Wasn't concentrating...
Boz

 

[Ross K]

He started on Domino and then used the TS55 as an analogy.

A better analogy might be the original Festool tracksaw, rather than the TS55, which was a tweak on a theme.

Aaah, thanks Jake, all clear now, I assumed a TS55 WAS a Domino (and I have one!)

I must have got distracted by the red mist after I read his comment "sagacity lies in waiting a while". I never have been impressed by pretentious language on a down to earth forum.

 

[Ross K]

It's a tool for speeding up repetitive, non critical joinery.

I agree, it's invaluable for that.

It's also, critically, a tool for making a floating tenon joint where the "real thing" would be extremely time consuming, for example, in non-90 degree work.

 

[Dibs-h]

I'll be in Grahams on Tuesday, and will sound him out on the Dom multi buy idea...........but as I said, no guarantee they'll go for it 8)

Cheers

Jed

Jed

Any news\progress? I did ring them yesterday and they got back to me today. Offered me 15% off list prices for the accesories. Dealers must all have different Lists :roll: Another dealer (local) was offering me 25% off list for accessories off the bat. Been busy at the mo, so haven't been able to see the local dealer.

Cheers

Dibs

 

[jedmc571]

Dibs,

PM SENT

 

[Dibs-h]

Absolute shambles - went to the local dealer for a fix and no bloody Domino in stock!

Found another local'ish.


Done It!


Bought the following

- Domino (full set)
- 2x 1400 rails
- 2 connectors for rails
- padded bag for rails (FOC)
- Domino assortment (new one including 4mm ones) [paid less than list price even with VAT added]

 

[woodbloke]

Done It!

Ed just needs to make his mind up now :lol: - Rob

 

[Paul Chapman]

Ed just needs to make his mind up now :lol:

Ed's probably saying the same about you :lol:

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Mr Ed]

Ed just needs to make his mind up now :lol:

Ed's probably saying the same about you :lol:

Cheers :wink:

Paul

I think I might have said a few times and then promptly dived into the same hole myself. What is it about the Domino that does this - I've never experienced such indecision on another tool....

..anyway I'm thinking of buying a new saw now!

Ed

 

[wizer]

I, on the other hand am certain I'm going to have the tool. Just waiting for the funds fairy to pay me a visit.

Anyone want a limb?

 

[Chems]

I'm going to weight in on this. I want to get myself a Christmas present an I'd really like a Big Jet PT buts its a lot or a SIP table saw which is a lot as well. But I do have a lead on a Domino for £470 with just the 5mm cutter and the basics.

I'm weightin it up, obviously a big saving for a start plus when I think about it making mortices in the traditional way with a machine requires a good morticers (expensive) and a good table saw with jig to cut the tenons. This does both. Obviously it won't replace the MT and I wouldn't want it to but it looks like it might soon join my small arsenel of woodworking tools.


I have one question for the Dominion (people what uses dominos) I made a stool a little while back and use long but thin tenons and then pegged them and its ever so sturdy. Would the domino work for that as well?

 

[OPJ]

Chems, I don't see why you couldn't peg your dominoes, provided the ones you use are long enough. There is an old traditional joint (I forget what it's called) where something very similar to this is achieved and both ends of a 'loose tongue' are pegged in place. You probably wouldn't even need glue. :wink:

I seriously think that anyone considering one of these tools for hobby use should give it a lot of serious consideration. It sounds like (Ed and Chems at least) you may be better off spending that spare cash on a larger table saw, if your current machines are holding you back... That's one area where a Domino won't improve things! :wink: You'd only have to spend another year saving up for a new saw/putting up with the old one in the mean time.

...If you did go for a Domino though, it might be worth taking a leaf from one of Steve Maskery's old articles - as you won't be using this day in, day out, you could machine your own dominoes from scrap stock on the router table (that's another alternative means for cutting tenons, by the way!). :wink:

 

[Chems]

A table saw is defiantly coming very soon, the 10" sip, but one doesn't exclude the other an I actually get on really well with my little saw having done raised panels and many tenons on it so far. Also the £470 price tag is to good to miss!

 

[Mr Ed]

A table saw is defiantly coming very soon, the 10" sip, but one doesn't exclude the other an I actually get on really well with my little saw having done raised panels and many tenons on it so far. Also the £470 price tag is to good to miss!

Where is it being sold for £470?

 

[Dibs-h]

Absolute shambles - went to the local dealer for a fix and no bloody Domino in stock!

Found another local'ish.


Done It!


Bought the following

- Domino (full set)
- 2x 1400 rails
- 2 connectors for rails
- padded bag for rails (FOC)
- Domino assortment (new one including 4mm ones) [paid less than list price even with VAT added]

Down right F**cking idiots! If it wasn't bad enough turning up and grounding the car in what looked like a car park, i.e. dropped curb in front of the building, other cars there, no signs of car park being elsewhere - came to put together a bench (for assembly with a 6mm sacrificial mdf top - was going to get mdf & ply tomorrow) and was halfway thru changing the 5mm cutter for a 10mm cutter and guess what?

I paid £632 (in Vat) for the Domino - even upon opening it, the penny didn't drop, only halfway thru changing the cutter did it drop.

Bloody cretin supplied the basic tool instead of the full set. I just don't have the strength to type the expletives. :evil:

Will see if they are open tomorrow - some places are (you never know), failing that will be ringing them on Monday morning and giving the f%cks a piece of my mind. Worst case, stomp back and till them to stick it where the sun doesn't shine and get a refund or chargeback if need be.

If it was a small amount of money - then you'd understand. But I'd rung up beforehand, told him what I wanted and then turned up, paid & collected. I spent almost £1k and am just royally cheesed off.

The mood I'm in - I might just suggest they come to me and swap out their mistake 'cos if I have to drive to Skipton and back, I might as well give them their kit back and they can refund the card.

 

[Mr Ed]

Shoulda spent the money on a table saw!

only kidding, I'm sure you'll get it sorted and in a day or two it'll be forgotten, although I'm irritated by that type of thing too.

Ed

 

[Dibs-h]

Shoulda spent the money on a table saw!

only kidding, I'm sure you'll get it sorted and in a day or two it'll be forgotten, although I'm irritated by that type of thing too.

Ed

Problem is that it puts one in a completely black mood and you have to try extremely hard it stop it affecting something else.

Last time I went for a Sheesha after a simialr day, someone tried repeatedly to press the switch I was trying so hard to keep contained - he managed to press it on the 4th or 5th go and he wasn't quite prepared for what happened next. Due to his ego also getting dented - pride probably stopped the rozzers getting called.

Man I probably need some anger management stuff. :x

 

[Dibs-h]

Just looked up the part nbr and I'd paid for a

- DF500 Q-set 240v (574281)

but was given a

- DF500 Q-plus 240v (574256)

so at least shouldn't get any jip on Monday (or tomorrow if they are open).