Cyclists!!!

[foxhunter]

Cyclists are road users the same as anyone else

No they are not when they try to emulate TdF on narrow country lanes. Groups of more than 50 suddenly appear round a corner. Sometime a body leaps out from a bush into the middle of the road waving a red flag. Single cyclists or small groups are OK but you try living on the route of the Olympic road race at the moment.

Anyone fancy a house swap in Dorking this weekend? You won't be able to go anywhere as the road is closed from 6;00 am on Saturday until 11:00 pm on Sunday. You cannot travel on the route nor can you cross it even on foot as the footpaths and bridleways are closed.

Brian

 

[Jacob]

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Seriously, as long as they apply give and take on the road then they are as entitled as anyone else. But what does get my goat is where you get a bloody phalanx of them two or three abreast with no opportunity to overtake. That's just plain selfish.

Perhaps you should stick to motorways Minor roads are for everybody, slow or fast. If you don't like it keep off them.

 

[foxhunter]

RogerS wrote:
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Seriously, as long as they apply give and take on the road then they are as entitled as anyone else. But what does get my goat is where you get a bloody phalanx of them two or three abreast with no opportunity to overtake. That's just plain selfish.

Perhaps you should stick to motorways Minor roads are for everybody, slow or fast. If you don't like it keep off them.

Friendly place this! :evil: :twisted: (hammer)

 

[Jacob]

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Friendly place this! :evil: :twisted: (hammer)

Unless you are a cyclist. Endless stream of petty complaints and hostility. We also experience it directly on the road.
Anybody would think that all other road users are perfect in every way, which is certainly not true.

 

[RogerS]

RogerS wrote:
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Seriously, as long as they apply give and take on the road then they are as entitled as anyone else. But what does get my goat is where you get a bloody phalanx of them two or three abreast with no opportunity to overtake. That's just plain selfish.

Perhaps you should stick to motorways Minor roads are for everybody, slow or fast. If you don't like it keep off them.

Friendly place this! :evil: :twisted: (hammer)

Nah...you get used to Jacob's blatherings after while and do what I do..stick him on Ignore.

 

[woodbloke]

Cyclists are road users the same as anyone else

No they are not when they try to emulate TdF on narrow country lanes.

Brian

I meant that in the most general, everyday terms, not in the context of Lord Wiggins :mrgreen: recent TdeF win, e.g. when you witness ejits going through red lights or doing stupid, everyday sort of things on the road. Sure, folk who act like a TdeF peleton on narrow country lanes deserve everything that's likely to come their way - Rob

 

[doctor Bob]

20 mins to do 4 miles today, swearing at a ridiculously slow artic lorry in front of me, it was only after 2 miles at about 10-15mph I realised there was a cyclist in front of him which he could not overtake.
ended up with about 100 vehicles behind me, my blood was boiling. He didn't look like he was aware of the chaos he was causing, just having a lovely little cycle ride in the middle of the road.

 

[RogerS]

20 mins to do 4 miles today, swearing at a ridiculously slow artic lorry in front of me, it was only after 2 miles at about 10-15mph I realised there was a cyclist in front of him which he could not overtake.
ended up with about 100 vehicles behind me, my blood was boiling. He didn't look like he was aware of the chaos he was causing, just having a lovely little cycle ride in the middle of the road.

That was Jacob.

 

[Mark A]

20 mins to do 4 miles today, swearing at a ridiculously slow artic lorry in front of me, it was only after 2 miles at about 10-15mph I realised there was a cyclist in front of him which he could not overtake.
ended up with about 100 vehicles behind me, my blood was boiling. He didn't look like he was aware of the chaos he was causing, just having a lovely little cycle ride in the middle of the road.

That was Jacob.

:lol:

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Yes, but think about the fuel saint cyclist was saving!

 

[RogerS]

Yes, but think about the fuel saint cyclist was saving!

Yebbut...think about all the extra fuel that all those vehicles are going to have to burn to get back up to speed again once they've managed to get past that selfish cyclist. We've had this discussion on another forum.

What gets me is where there is a perfectly good cycle lane but the buggers still insist on using the road.

 

[RogerP]

Cyclist lashes out http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-18967273

 

[RogerS]

Cyclist lashes out http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-18967273

"He was wearing a grey T-shirt with a logo on the chest and shorts."

Wonder what the logo said? Entries on a postcard to ....

 

[paulm]

What gets me is where there is a perfectly good cycle lane but the buggers still insist on using the road.

I've recently treated myself to a new bike with a view to getting a bit of exercise and fresh air and am loving it, although having to build up the distance gradually as I'm so unfit !

Have to say that I thought the same as Roger before, but having used some of them round here I know tend not to use most of them and stay on the road instead !

The reason being that they are also used by pedestrians, dog walkers and the like and it is absolutely asking for trouble to try and anticipate safely where they might wander on the paths next, unless you are happy to proceed at a snails pace or keep slowing down and speeding up to take evasive action

I prefer to work up to a nice efficient and enjoyable pace and maintain that as far as possible.

The cycle lanes also get interrupted at every T junction round here, so while you can cycle continuously past those on the road, on the cycle lanes you have to stop at each and cross, again really slows things down.

All in all it's just easier, more enjoyable, safer, and more efficient to just stay on the road !!!

The exceptions to that are large busy roundabouts and complex junctions where the lanes and underpasses are a godsend and safer.

I don't wear lycra though and don't hog the middle of the road, and I still swear at the groups of cyclists who get in my way when I'm driving :lol:

Cheers, Paul

 

[Jacob]

For those who don't like sharing the road with cyclists and other slow moving vehicles with occasional delays inevitable - then keep off the road. It's your choice.
As for causing delays cyclists aren't often to blame as it's usually easy to pull off for a second or two to let things pass - and most do, believe it or not.
Caravans are a bigger problem in my experience. Shall we have a "caravan owners are all selfish prats" thread?
Or steam traction engines, horse drawn vehicles, farmers, pedestrians, all *******s!

paulm - cycle lanes are death traps and usually best avoided. They are designed by idiots.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/w ... st2012.htm

 

[bugbear]

As for causing delays cyclists aren't often to blame as it's usually easy to pull off for a second or two to let things pass - and most do, believe it or not.

Speaking as a life-long cyclist and car-driver since I was 17 - I don't ever recall seeing a cyclist pull in to let things pass.

Evidence or retraction please.

BugBear

 

[Jacob]

As for causing delays cyclists aren't often to blame as it's usually easy to pull off for a second or two to let things pass - and most do, believe it or not.

Speaking as a life-long cyclist and car-driver since I was 17 - I don't ever recall seeing a cyclist pull in to let things pass.

Evidence or retraction please.

BugBear

Lets face it it isn't often an issue unless you are driving an HGV in a narrow lane. And when a cyclist does pull in it's not something you'd take note of, or stop and gather "evidence" for bugbear. :lol:

I do it often myself. Maybe you should too, and set an example. You have to around here. There are narrow lanes where you could hog the road for several miles if you don't let things pass.
If there is a lot of traffic it sometimes isn't viable to give way or you won't get a chance to pull out again. So you just have to carry on regardless and have a bit of a laugh about the Clarksons behind you; huffing and puffing so self-righteously. :lol:
Might hit the jackpot one day and have Clarkson himself and our own RogerS stuck behind me going purple with rage whilst I waste 30 seconds of their valuable time. :lol: :lol:

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Yes, but think about the fuel saint cyclist was saving!

Yebbut...think about all the extra fuel that all those vehicles are going to have to burn to get back up to speed again once they've managed to get past that selfish cyclist. We've had this discussion on another forum.

What gets me is where there is a perfectly good cycle lane but the buggers still insist on using the road.

The first point is exactly the dig I was having!

 

[bugbear]

As for causing delays cyclists aren't often to blame as it's usually easy to pull off for a second or two to let things pass - and most do, believe it or not.

Speaking as a life-long cyclist and car-driver since I was 17 - I don't ever recall seeing a cyclist pull in to let things pass.

Evidence or retraction please.

BugBear

Lets face it it isn't often an issue unless you are driving an HGV in a narrow lane. And when a cyclist does pull in it's not something you'd take note of, or stop and gather "evidence" for bugbear. :lol:

I do it often myself. Maybe you should too, and set an example. You have to around here. There are narrow lanes where you could hog the road for several miles if you don't let things pass.
If there is a lot of traffic it sometimes isn't viable to give way or you won't get a chance to pull out again. So you just have to carry on regardless and have a bit of a laugh about the Clarksons behind you; huffing and puffing so self-righteously. :lol:
Might hit the jackpot one day and have Clarkson himself and our own RogerS stuck behind me going purple with rage whilst I waste 30 seconds of their valuable time. :lol: :lol:

Your confident assertions of what should happen do not constitute the requested evidence even anecdotal) of what does happen.

So far the only citations for the claim of "most" is "J. Butler", who is atypical in most regards I'm aware of.

BugBear

 

[RogerS]

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So far the only citations for the claim of "most" is "J. Butler", who is atypical in most regards I'm aware of.

BugBear

I nominate this for "Quote of the Year 2012"