Axminster 600mm rule

[Tusses]

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp? ... id=377028&

I bought this as I am upping my game - trying to get more accurate rules than that found in poundland !

wasted my money with this one. it is 1 mm out over 600mm

not much good if I am making anything !

I have drawn on it in thick marker "NOT ACCURATE" and hung it up.

it may get used as a straight edge from time to time - but I guess it will be binned when I find a decent 600mm rule.

I was happy with the 40" rule
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp? ... _id=23307&

and the 6" combi square
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp? ... id=207667&

the digital calipers
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp? ... id=554675&

the rule stop is good, but doesn't fit the bigger rules
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp? ... id=366134&

the japanese marking knife is ok - I am left haded tho - but not much choice for me. I will see how long it keeps it's edge
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp? ... _id=19805&

so - dont buy the 600 rule , but the rest is ok

 

[kityuser]

u might have just got a duff one.

take it back.

Steve

 

[Tusses]

for the price of it - £2.50 its not really worth posting it back !

as for it being a duff one - I guess it might be a duff batch, but I doubt just the one.

 

[George_N]

What is your "gold standard" to check the 600 mm rule against? I once bought an aluminium 1 m rule from B&Q...printed graduations rather than etched...what a load of rubbish. Not even a straight edge, so a dead loss. I bought an Axminster 1 m rule (actually 40") which I have checked against my tape and shorter rules, and they all appear to agree. By the way, the 40" rule is pretty wide and the Axminster rule stop fit it fine (maybe they have changed the spec since I bought mine). I find the rule stop so useful if I am laying out for cuts on sheet goods with my home made sawboard.

 

[Gary]

What sort of accuracy do you expect for £2-50? I would hardy expect it to be up to engineering specifications at that price. However if you where to measure everything with that rule on the same project surely accuracy would be achieved as everything would be the same 1mm out over 600mm wouldn't it?

Go for something like this if you want/need the accuracy

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Stan ... -23085.htm

£19 more but as they says you get what you pay for.

 

[Tusses]

What is your "gold standard" to check the 600 mm rule against? I once bought an aluminium 1 m rule from B&Q...printed graduations rather than etched...what a load of rubbish. Not even a straight edge, so a dead loss. I bought an Axminster 1 m rule (actually 40") which I have checked against my tape and shorter rules, and they all appear to agree. By the way, the 40" rule is pretty wide and the Axminster rule stop fit it fine (maybe they have changed the spec since I bought mine). I find the rule stop so useful if I am laying out for cuts on sheet goods with my home made sawboard.

The 40" rule is 35mm wide - the stoop opens up to 32mm

oh well !

 

[Tusses]

What sort of accuracy do you expect for £2-50? I would hardy expect it to be up to engineering specifications at that price. However if you where to measure everything with that rule on the same project surely accuracy would be achieved as everything would be the same 1mm out over 600mm wouldn't it?

Go for something like this if you want/need the accuracy

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Stan ... -23085.htm

£19 more but as they says you get what you pay for.

I was happy with all the other rules / vernier tapes etc - they all agree on the same measurements.

What I would expect for £2.50 - or 50p for that matter - when I am buying from axminster is for the rule to measure correctly.

in other words - I wouldn't expect them to stock anything that didn't , regardless of price ! whats the point ?

I only ordered it because the next one up was out of stock !

 

[Gary]

Looks like the classic case of buy cheap buy twice then.

 

[Tusses]

Looks like the classic case of buy cheap buy twice then.

yep - and I've just checked and the other is in stock now :roll:

 

[TrimTheKing]

Don't get me wrong here Tusses, but I don't understand what the issue is! As previously said, if you measure everything with the same rule then all your measurements will be the same, so no issue.

I have many different tape measures and they are nearly all slightly out over their entire length, so long as you use the same one for a whole project it is fine.

Cheers

Mark

 

[Tusses]

no issue really especially for the money- just stating a fact ! I placed an order and the better one was out of stock - so I searched and bought this one. this is the place for reviews isn't it

I do want to get all my rules within a tollerence to each other. 1mm over 600mm isn't good in my opinion. i

as for using the one rule - I bought a rule stop too , the idea being I can use differnt rules with stops on, for repetitive marking !

I bought a decent stanley tape and chucked out any cheap tapes that didn't agree with it

I dont really want to be carrying rules about with me everywhere I go - like measuring the camper van outside and coming in to cut a piece - its a pain when you have forgotten to pick it up !

 

[Anonymous]

The simple rule for all measuring instruments or equipment is that accuracy costs money - those cheap verniers from Aldi etc. for example, are not accurate, they simply have a digital display that fools many into thinking that they are because it shows two decimal places.

When buying rules, I usually go for a recognized manufacturer of good quality kit such as Starrett from RS or Farnell - if you wish, it can even come supplied with a calibration certificate


By the way, rules usually don't make very good straight edges when one wants precision (the Axminster 'straight edges' are truly awful) as they are typically just stamped from a blank, not machined straight - Moore and Wright for accurate straight edges :wink:

 

[OPJ]

By the way, rules usually don't make very good straight edges when one wants precision (the Axminster 'straight edges' are truly awful) as they are typically just stamped from a blank, not machined straight - Moore and Wright for accurate straight edges :wink:

Tony, I do hope you're not talking about one of these...? :?

I bought a 1m length a few years ago and have used it successfully many times to set up my planer thicknesser and also for striking a straight line on waney-edge boards before ripping on the bandsaw.

I totally agree with your point on rulers though, in that they're usually concave one side and covex the other. Always use an engineer's square for small stuff and my aforementioned straight edge for anything bigger.

Then again, I've always said there is a distinct line between woodwork and engineering...

 

[Niki]

Hi Tusses

I thought that you (meaning - UK) is already in the "Metric" but it looks like there are some "remains" that are difficult to get rid off....

Here is my "measuring army" all "Made in Japan" (the calipers - made in Swiss) and costs like that but, very accurate.....look for the "Shinwa" products if you can find them in UK.

Regards
niki

 

[Tusses]

Hi Niki

I like good old feet and inches !

I am 6'2" and weigh 13 St - I have no idea what that is in metric ! I could work it out - but hey - no one here gives their wight in Kgs !

We drive in MPH and although we can no longer buy a 'gallon' of petrol , fuel usage is measured in MPG distance in Miles

We buy milk and BEER by the pint , food by the pound - 1/4 pounder hamberger - 14 Oz steak, eggs by the dozen ....

We measure horses in 'Hands' and they run furlongs (sp)

I'm sure if 'they' could figure out a way, time would be metric too !



Thats one of the tings I really like about the States - they havent 'sold out' yet

oops ... hope this doesn't turn out to be a rant :lol:

 

[Digit]

hope this doesn't turn out to be a rant

I'd describe as a valid opinion.

Roy.

 

[Niki]

Hi Tessus

So.....after reading that you are using almost everything in "Imperial", I don't understand what you guys are measuring in "Metric" as the UK government declared that they are converting to metric

In my far past, I was an aircraft mechanic (or, as you call it in UK - engineer) and all the B-707 and B-747 (and I even worked on the British "Britania" if you remember it) so I'm familiar with the "Imperial" system - all my tool-box was "Imperial" and 11/32" is "visual" for me.

but I prefer "whole" numbers that I can calculate with my 10 fingers (yes, I still have them all )...instead of 3/8" + 31/64" or instead of 3/8" x 5/16" (10 x 8 )......and because I'm very bad in math, I can use a calculator that works only for the decimal method...

But, if you are used to Imperial system - it's just another measuring system and nothing wrong with it.

Regards
niki

 

[Digit]

I use both! On occasion a measurement will be something a 5/32 or something and 4 mill. Then I use metric.
But at the end of the day imperial is a more natural measure in fractions.
Try cutting you kid's birthday cake into tenths!

Roy.

 

[Tusses]

no idea why the British government wanted to go euro / metric ?

I am used also to computers and binary / hex, 1Kb 1024 256 128 Mb etc etc they dont try to make that metric !

 

[PowerTool]

no idea why the British government wanted to go euro / metric ?

I am used also to computers and binary / hex, 1Kb 1024 256 128 Mb etc etc they dont try to make that metric !

Remeber,there are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary,and those who don't.. :lol:

(I'll get me coat...)

Andrew