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RobinBHM":125jp3a1 said:
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I am sure that the NHS is underfunded, but Im not sure more money will help
If it is underfunded then more money will help - by definition. This is simple logic.
or that there are enough funds available. ......
We have astronomical accumulations of wealth amongst the mega rich. We have historically unprecedented (in the last 100 years or so at least) high differentials in earnings.
In spite of this we nearly all have a much higher standard of living and quality of life than our parents generation and all previous generations.
The country is awash with wealth.
Raising the money would be simple and easy; we have historically low levels of taxation and high levels of tax avoidance/evasion.
It's a simple political choice. The only obstacle is the austerity delusion.

Corbyn's latest wheeze is a goodun; no government contracts to firms with tax avoiding offshore accounts. That'd screw Branson. :lol:
 
AJB Temple":3r1n19ao said:
The anxiety post is an interesting one. My business recruits probably ten people each year: part growth and part replacement. In the past few years we have seen several new recruits (usually graduates) take time off for anxiety. Eventually, when we get to the bottom of this, there is some history that has not been disclosed. We recently recruited a young woman of 21. She joined in December. We have not seen her yet since the new year as she has been signed off work by her doctor with anxiety.

Experience of this kind of thing as an employer eventually hardens you as there are without doubt some people who take advantage of the system. Hence, I will probably instruct HR to dismiss her next week. Whilst I agree that mental health is important, I do think some of the youngsters of today could do with a bit more backbone and resilience.

Have a bit of compassion. You never know whats going on or happened in peoples lives. She could be taking advantage, or it could be genuine. Maybe one of your staff pulled her aside and gave her a bit of bullying, you know, pecking order tactics, etc. Most of us have had that in some form or another.

Strange you keep taking people on and they're all off for anxiety. The common denominator is your department. :-k

Its not backbone and resilience they need. Its for some to understand Mental Health issues are a part & parcel of life. Some people deal/cope with things differently and sometimes their background story hard to bare when they tell you it. ****/Abuse etc. Yep, theres a big grey area between that Black & White point of view.
 
iNewbie":fqhosrx2 said:
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Strange you keep taking people on and they're all off for anxiety. The common denominator is your department. :-k .....
:lol:
Yep. Maybe you should be taking a closer look at your management - it sounds like you are wasting a lot of talent and missing opportunities. it only takes one rotten apple in the team - and that could be the manager!
 
Jacob - I bet there are no Labour MPs, Union bosses or Party donors with offshore cash? Just like there are no Labour MPs employing people on zero hour contracts ... :?
Corbyn will never be in a position to solve anything, so he can say what he likes.
 
Jacob":1zqvnqel said:
iNewbie":1zqvnqel said:
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Strange you keep taking people on and they're all off for anxiety. The common denominator is your department. :-k .....
:lol:
Yep. Maybe you should be taking a closer look at your management - it sounds like you are wasting a lot of talent and missing opportunities.

Agreed. Have you (AJB Temple) tried talking to these people, this girl for instance? And I mean really talking to them, making an effort with them. Maybe their feedback could be conducive to a better working environment. While perhaps you aren't to blame for their anxiety and subsequent time off work, you likely have nothing to lose from hearing what they have to say and either making sure that you aren't part of the problem or, if you are, working to eliminate that problem or its contributing factors. Just a thought.
 
If it is underfunded then more money will help - by definition. This is simple logic.

If only it was that simple. A bottomless pit of funding is neither sustainable nor a solution. There are plenty of health professionals that say the NHS has multi factorial issues, of which funding is one aspect and would not on its own be a solution

We have astronomical accumulations of wealth amongst the mega rich. We have historically unprecedented (in the last 100 years or so at least) high differentials in earnings.
In spite of this we nearly all have a much higher standard of living and quality of life than our parents generation and all previous generations.
The country is awash with wealth.
Raising the money would be simple and easy; we have historically low levels of taxation and high levels of tax avoidance/evasion.
It's a simple political choice. The only obstacle is the austerity delusion.

Unfortunately Robin Hood ideology does not provide a solution, it is naive rhetoric. Increasing higher rate taxes does not translate into great increases in revenue.

Hhigh taxation means high state intervention and high regulation. However it is low regulation and low taxation that encourages businesses to come to the UK and to develop in the UK.
 
phil.p":14w1tj8q said:
Jacob - I bet there are no Labour MPs, Union bosses or Party donors with offshore cash? Just like there are no Labour MPs employing people on zero hour contracts ... :?
No some of them are complete a***holes. Being a Labour MP doesn't make you a saint (though god will probably be on your side :D )
Corbyn will never be in a position to solve anything, so he can say what he likes.
Too soon to say. We live in interesting times.
NB Oddly; blind surveys suggest majority support for almost everything that Corbyn proposes, including this last one.
 
RobinBHM":zlgi23do said:
.... Increasing higher rate taxes does not translate into great increases in revenue.....
:lol:
Oh yes it does!!
low regulation and low taxation that encourages businesses to come to the UK and to develop in the UK.
Another popular delusion and blatantly untrue. British industry has all but disappeared under neo liberal poilicies (and USA ditto).
Unless of course you think there is some sense in having power, rail, motor industry, etc. all owned and run by foreign companies for the benefit of foreign shareholders, though some of them nationalised. It works for them, but not for us, except as a low age third world economy.
 
Anxiety, depression and back backs are unfortunately very difficult to prove, which works against the genuine. I remember on dozens of occasions being called in to work on my days off to cover for the guy I worked opposite who had gone of sick with either a bad back or depression, when he was no more depressed than I was and way healthier - he'd just hit the bottle a bit too hard. If I genuinely went sick and he got called in he would go sick immediately he returned to work.
Strange how the last time the higher rate tax was reduced the tax take went up?
 
Of course there is support for Corbyn - it's called "idealism". People are very happy with idealism so long as they know it will never happen. "Virtue signalling" is a good expression for much of it.
 
phil.p":1a93dcby said:
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Strange how the last time the higher rate tax was reduced the tax take went up?
When was that then, in a dream?
So even lower taxes will bring in even more money?
Have you been reading "Alice Through the Looking Glass"?
 
phil.p":1rhieuvs said:
Corbyn will never be in a position to solve anything, so he can say what he likes.

As a Labour member and supporter of Corbyn I do have to agree with you on that front and it's very frustrating. What is it about him that the public does not like and has so little faith in? On paper he should be a regular Bernie Sanders.

Recent surveys indicate that public interest has shifted from Brexit and the circus surrounding it to the NHS crisis and health in general. This might lead one to believe that public faith in the Conservatives might be fading. And yet in those same polls, Theresa May and her party have a commanding lead over Corbyn and Labour. That is completely insane but alas the people seem happy to let the Tories keep chipping away at their rights.
 
RogerS":1uxn7r23 said:
El Barto":1uxn7r23 said:
.... What is it about him that the public does not like and has so little faith in? .....

How about the fact that he spouts absolute gibberish and is a prat ? A right proper little Citizen Smith.

Can you back that up a little though, maybe give some context? I'm not trying to be rude, I just want to hear more than "he's a prat"; it's not very helpful is it? From where I stand he speaks for the people he serves, and that is backed up by his history of good decisions as a politician, as this article suggests.
 
El Barto":538q6zg9 said:
RogerS":538q6zg9 said:
El Barto":538q6zg9 said:
.... What is it about him that the public does not like and has so little faith in? .....

How about the fact that he spouts absolute gibberish and is a prat ? A right proper little Citizen Smith.

Can you back that up a little though, maybe give some context? I'm not trying to be rude, I just want to hear more than "he's a prat"; it's not very helpful is it? From where I stand he speaks for the people he serves, and that is backed up by his history of good decisions as a politician, as this article suggests.

Not really. Every time he starts to speak I feel the bile rising and so switch off. Anyway, he's made Labour unelectable while he is in charge and so no complaints on that score.

Links to Gruniad vox-pop pieces do very little for me, I'm afraid. Their constant hand-wringing brings me out in a rash. :D
 
Apparently Jeremy has just had a re-boot!

It rather seems to me that Jeremy and the far left are doing their very best to bury New Labour Left of centre, which gave them their most time in power for many many decades.

The Socialist ideology of Jeremy etc is popular only by a minority. The vast majority of the public dont have any real political ideology, so any such preaching falls on deaf ears.

Since Jeremy Corbyn has been leader, he has hardly been in the media at all. I know he gets an overly negative press, but he also does not make enough effort to appear on the major tv and radio programmes.

Generally opposition parties get big wins in byelections, not this time!
 
El Barto":3t0k9qsk said:
RogerS":3t0k9qsk said:
El Barto":3t0k9qsk said:
.... What is it about him that the public does not like and has so little faith in? .....

How about the fact that he spouts absolute gibberish and is a prat ? A right proper little Citizen Smith.

Can you back that up a little though, maybe give some context? I'm not trying to be rude, I just want to hear more than "he's a prat"; it's not very helpful is it? From where I stand he speaks for the people he serves, and that is backed up by his history of good decisions as a politician, as this article suggests.
I think people simple mindedly want charisma. Blair had it, Trump has it , Thatcher had it, Hitler had it, all in in their own ways. They were all (Trump will be) disasters.
Corbyn is no Schwarzenegger, not a knight on a white horse, not the cavalry coming over the hill. But neither was Attlee.
 
phil.p":3m7t0stk said:
Jacob":3m7t0stk said:
phil.p":3m7t0stk said:
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Strange how the last time the higher rate tax was reduced the tax take went up?
When was that then, in a dream?
So even lower taxes will bring in even more money?
Have you been reading "Alice Through the Looking Glass"?
2013 - 2014
Details please. Was this the only time in history or is it generally true that lower taxes bring in more tax?
 
RogerS":qfhqvhhp said:
Not really. Every time he starts to speak I feel the bile rising and so switch off. Anyway, he's made Labour unelectable while he is in charge and so no complaints on that score.

Links to Gruniad vox-pop pieces do very little for me, I'm afraid. Their constant hand-wringing brings me out in a rash. :D

"He's a prat who sprouts gibberish but I can't give an example". Interesting. See this is part of the problem - "Oh, The Guardian, no I won't read that tosh. Better to insult it instead". Lack of interest in listening and reading what politicians are actually saying, whether that's through laziness, a lack of interest or blind dismissal of the opposition. I feel the same way when Theresa May starts to speak but it's important to listen anyway. It's a shame really but the malaise surrounding British politics is unsurprising. I know all of this is falling on deaf ears and ffs I'm talking politics on a forum on the internet but man, the laziness and stubbornness is so stupid.

Edit because I posted afterwards: re. charisma Jacob yes I agree.
 
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