Phil Pascoe
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I think he meant the Welsh. God help us.
Wild fires in BC Canada.
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Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Fair point on the lignite mines, but that still doesn't mean we should stop trying to mitigate climate change. There seems to be a widely held belief that because some countries are not pulling their weight on this, neither should we. If that holds true, nothing ever changes - imagine if we'd thought that about slavery...
More slaves now than ever before, nothing changed.
Phil Pascoe
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It was proved. Accidents increased by something like 65%. Sorry you don't like it.
Amazing how they keep churning out the same nonsense!
Phil Pascoe
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Fair point, but I object to the ridiculous belief that we will somehow lead the rest of the world to the moral high ground.. The rest of the world couldn't give a tinker's cuss what we do.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Nobody has said that. It's just another of your little fantasies.
Wrong. Everybody is watching everybody.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
I don't believe it. Do you have any evidence?
Every speed camera in UK has been accused of increasing accidents its just another of those silly ideas kicked around by the unwoke.
https://www.rospa.com/media/documents/road-safety/speed-cameras-factsheet.pdf
Well, in a socialist society perhaps! Where the state knows best and its citizens are kept under control. But, you live in a democracy and what you’re suggesting is just wrong. We are back to your I think it, so it must be.
Here is how it works very simplified, So, perspective candidates / parties propose the ideas, changes and what they intend to do whilst in government. The citizens vote to decide what they want doing in their name. The elected government now has a mandate to carry out ONLY what they got elected to do. Clearly they have to react to other situations that arise, but nothing else. We vote every 5 years on a government, in theory enough time for the existing government to implement the mandate they were elected for after which we vote again.
Even if that's the case, maybe sometimes we should do things just because we know they're the right things to do...
And how do we handle it when things they promise to do to get themselves elected never get done? This is not a dig at the current government (although they have proved themselves masters of incompetence) but at all parties... That being a given, do we still call it a democracy?
It only generates revenue when people break the law. It always amazes me how people see speed cameras as a tax or revenue generator. Don’t break the law, don’t get taxed…
No, we should inform and educate the citizens on all aspects of what the policies will entail. We should then allow them to vote on the parties manifestos that state what and how they may tackle the issue. What one man thinks is the right thing t9 do is another’s worst nightmare.
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Jacob
What goes around comes around.
No they don't. They vote for representatives not delegates.
Basic O level stuff - you need to do some homework on the subject of the British Constitution.
It's no good just choosing your own ideas of how things work, you will be wrong most of the time. And it's all much more interesting than you can imagine.
Elective dictatorship? The democratic mandate concept has become dangerously over-extended
Perhaps start here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/British-Constitution-Anthony-King/dp/019957698X
Or here https://www.waterstones.com/book/th...rt-introduction/martin-loughlin/9780199697694
In fact I might read the short one myself! These threads are interesting as they do send you off in unforeseen directions
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You’re absolutely right, the route problem I believe is that 99% of the population don’t read the manifestos before voting. They vote either on ‘traditional’ lines, or in sound bite presentations of leaders ‘personalities’. Id like to suggest you ask you family and friends how many read all the parties manifestos before voting at the last election. If you don’t know what they were and they voted for them they can’t now very well complain.
Stop making stuff up, and actually read posts before replying. I’ve never mentioned delegates, everything I stated is how you vote for representatives, ie with a mandate to represent the citizens will.
That’s why they haven’t mandated for vehicles speed to be linked to and limited by satnav which could ensure nobody speeds. With your background you know how easy that would be to actually achieve. No need for speed cameras, and a lucrative tax disappears!
Phil Pascoe
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I can't be bothered to search for it just to prove a point. You'll only say it was in a right wing newspaper ergo a lie, anyway. It was well publicised at the time.
Phil Pascoe
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It's coming soon, along with automatic braking.
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