US Election November 5th

[John Brown]

The thing is he's not wrong...the Nation cannot afford to keep allowing immigration to flourish as it has been doing or are you suggesting it can? Even the European Union is taking steps to address what Farage has been saying for years.
Where is the infrastructure to cater for for the number of migrants coming here? There isn't a fully functioning infrastructure to deal with those living here let alone incomers.
That's the problem with left wing economics it doesn't embrace reality.

For starters Reeves could have saved the country a fair bit yesterday just by cutting immigrant accommodation down to one or two star hotels...why 3 or 4 star? If they're fleeing persecution as they claim then they would be grateful for even a tent let alone 3 or 4 star accommodation. I'd rather that money saved went into the pockets of the poorest already living here.

As for the poster...the only people who would associate that poster with Nazi's propaganda are your typical left wingers who don't appear to live in the real world.
Whether or you agree or disagree the numbers tell us one thing, the UK's population can't keep growing at the rate it is without everyone becoming poorer and if that's what you want fine but don't expect others to agree with your destructive thinking.

To quote Friedrich Hayek economist and winner of the Nobel Prize..."If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialists"...and looking at the nonsense posted on here never a truer word was spoken.

"If all the economists in the world were laid end-to-end, they still wouldn't reach a consensus".

 

[Blackswanwood]

Put simply - the timescale for the withdrawal that was agreed by Trump was fundamentally unachievable.

If anyone is interested there is a summary of the dates and how the decisions were arrived at here that I found when the point first came up..

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/US-Withdrawal-from-Afghanistan.pdf

 

[Jake]

You repeatedly refer to the peace agreement between the US and the Taliban as a surrender agreement, as I believe have others on this thread... To suggest the US and their allies simply surrendered is not accurate and possibly misleading.

Sorry that's not my phrase, it's the description given to it by General McMaster, his (Trump's) former head of national security.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/20/trump-peace-deal-taliban/

 

[NickDReed]

Sorry that's not my phrase, it's the description given to it by General McMaster, his (Trump's) former head of national security.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/20/trump-peace-deal-taliban/

Given their history the use of the language makes sense, I would still stand by my point that it is a misleading way to represent the agreement.

 

[TRITON]

"If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialists"..

It's near meaningless. It's something said by people who don't like socialism. Usually means they don't understand it.
But in reality it is impossible to evaluate without putting it into proper context, i.e. in what settings it's applied and what kind of socialism they're talking about. As a blanket statement, it's just nonsense.

Many socialists, most notably Marx, spoke of economics with knowledge and authority. Marx made reference to the boom and bust cycles we have today for example.

 

[mcostello]

Stil does not make Him right.

 

[woodieallen]

I'm not remotely interested in being covered in glory...I simply try to add balance to the left tilted views of some posters and thought the investment opportunity would appeal to their level of intellect.

Intellect ? An oxymoron, surely.

 

[Jake]

Given their history the use of the language makes sense, I would still stand by my point that it is a misleading way to represent the agreement.

What do you mean by "their history"? Are you the type that assumes someone like McMaster will invent stuff for personal beef reasons because he criticises Trump?

 

[Jake]

ey_tony said: I'm not remotely interested in being covered in glory...I simply try to add balance to the left tilted views of some posters and thought the investment opportunity would appeal to their level of intellect.
Intellect ? An oxymoron, surely.

That's not an oxymoron even if we credit Tony with having any point. Your own post is closer but still not there.

 

[Britman]

US politics and particularly the presidential elections are fun to follow.
People as so absolutely partisan that they are blind, the media bias is so utterly in your face it embarrassing.

What's sad is no one seems to realise that neither side give zero ***** about them.

 

[Terry - Somerset]

My recollection of the exit from Afghanistan - we were assured the Afghan army, having been trained and equipped by the west would be able to maintain order.

It is not clear whether this was a smokescreen intended to make withdrawal politically "palatable" - did the US expect the army to collapse in just a few weeks as the Taliban advanced.

More fundamental - I struggle to think of major conflicts over the last 70 years involving the West and in particular the US that have been successful in "righting a wrong" - evidenced by a fundamental long term change in circumstances.

Forays into the Middle East - Iraq, Afghanistan are demonstrable failures which have destabilised the region - in particular Syria. Vietnam ended in retreat and defeat. North Korea still a rogue state. Any other major operations I have missed?

Successes - the US managed to invade Grenada, UK won back and retained the Falklands. Former republic of Yugoslavia had some hands on involvement of US and UK but mainly air support.

The lesson - perhaps power through military means is no longer the best option. Support - weapons and intelligence - for Ukraine is right, active involvement on the ground would be an indefinite commitment with no certainty of success.

What has this to do with Trump/Biden - dialogue and economic power may be far more effective than conventional military solutions. China, now the equal of US in global reach, have achieved success substantially through economic means - trade, building infrastructure etc etc.

Trump (IMHO a reprehensible individual) seems able to maintain a dialogue with Putin, Kim, etc - possibly even an Ayatollah! Subtlety is not one of his strengths - success in resolving current conflicts may benefit from the simplistic and direct where conventional politics fails.

 

[TRITON]

I find it strange the US left so much important equipment behind, and they had 18 months before leaving to arrange its removal.

The Taliban are sworn enemies of ISIS, and all that equipment leaves them in a strong position militarily.