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Don't forget that we will need much more electricity if we:-

Increase AI and Cloud storage
Have 80% vehicles electric, lorries & buses will need significant amounts
Produce anything that requires heat to manufacture eg Pottery, metals

Gas gives more heat than per thermal unit than electricity so.....

And yes, Miliband, and in fact nearly ALL politicians have NO scientific training and very few civil servant have either.

Phil
 
Don't forget that we will need much more electricity if we:-

Increase AI and Cloud storage
Have 80% vehicles electric, lorries & buses will need significant amounts
Produce anything that requires heat to manufacture eg Pottery, metals

Gas gives more heat than per thermal unit than electricity so.....

And yes, Miliband, and in fact nearly ALL politicians have NO scientific training and very few civil servant have either.

Phil
Gas gives more heat per thermal unit than electricity?!!!
Surely thermal unit is a measure of heat?
 
I really only want to follow the money on this one.
Going for a net zero option is going to cost lots of money.
That money will only come from us.

It will go to building the vast infrastructure required to transmit the electricity from where its being inconveniently produced (out at sea), to where its needed, ie cities and industries.

The money will also go into the pockets of the wind farm barons who can now sell their product at an enormous mark up because the price of electricity is struck at the price asked by the most expensive producers, ie gas and nuclear, even if we only need them for 2 days a year.

Is the government going to admit to the public that our electricity bills will not come down because transitioning to net zero is worth all of us having to pay a lot more for our energy.
Good luck with that one.

We all want good schools, hospitals, roads etc but these things are only dependent on UK business generating enough wealth for the country.
That's a big problem for them when they have some of the highest energy costs in Europe.
Will the government explain that as well?
 
I really only want to follow the money on this one.
Going for a net zero option is going to cost lots of money.
That money will only come from us.

It will go to building the vast infrastructure required to transmit the electricity from where its being inconveniently produced (out at sea), to where its needed, ie cities and industries.

The money will also go into the pockets of the wind farm barons who can now sell their product at an enormous mark up because the price of electricity is struck at the price asked by the most expensive producers, ie gas and nuclear, even if we only need them for 2 days a year.

Is the government going to admit to the public that our electricity bills will not come down because transitioning to net zero is worth all of us having to pay a lot more for our energy.
Good luck with that one.

We all want good schools, hospitals, roads etc but these things are only dependent on UK business generating enough wealth for the country.
That's a big problem for them when they have some of the highest energy costs in Europe.
Will the government explain that as well?
Energy cost have been too low for too long. They will go up. There is no alternative. There will be big changes as we adjust. I reckon EVs and air flight will be off the agenda for starters.
A lot of people don't seem yet to have grasped what's going on. But fewer sceptics so that's good! Pity about the orange man but he won't be there for long.
 
I really only want to follow the money on this one.
Going for a net zero option is going to cost lots of money.
That money will only come from us.

It will go to building the vast infrastructure required to transmit the electricity from where its being inconveniently produced (out at sea), to where its needed, ie cities and industries.

The money will also go into the pockets of the wind farm barons who can now sell their product at an enormous mark up because the price of electricity is struck at the price asked by the most expensive producers, ie gas and nuclear, even if we only need them for 2 days a year.

Is the government going to admit to the public that our electricity bills will not come down because transitioning to net zero is worth all of us having to pay a lot more for our energy.
Good luck with that one.

We all want good schools, hospitals, roads etc but these things are only dependent on UK business generating enough wealth for the country.
That's a big problem for them when they have some of the highest energy costs in Europe.
Will the government explain that as well?

I don’t think anyone is suggesting it’s easy or that there is a silver bullet answer.

What do you think the answer is as I’m pretty sure it’s not “drill baby drill”?
 
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