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tim

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I have had a T11 pretty much since they came out. Its the second one becuase my first was replaced by Trend in a recall. Today number 2 made a hideous grinding noise and stopped - the casing was so hot that I couldn't tuch the cutter for 20 minutes. The router table has pretty high airflow and is extracted through a 4inch hose. It had been making some pulsing noises over the past few weeks irrespective of load and I suspected bearing trouble. Trend suggested then that the bearings are sealed so no user maintenance is required or possible. It stays permanently in my router table although I take it out infrequently to clean the inevitable chips and dust.

A quick call to Trend at lunchtime secured a loan machine and pick up of my existing machine tomorrow - which is impressive - no coercion required. But having been in the middle of a large kitchen job and typically halfway through grooving about 40 door parts, I lost several hours in resetting the table with my DW625.

My point is one fo information really - the T11 does get lots of thumbs up in mag reviews and I agree with a lot of what has been said positively but at the same time its worth pointing out the faults:

1.Whatever Trend say, it is an Elu clone and is still prone to all the debris problems that these machines suffer from. Triton owners (who have been vociferous) have made this point regularly but I (foolishly ?) trusted Trend when I asked them prior to purchase about this apparent design weakness who said that because of the sealed parts etc this was no longer a problem.

2. The springs on the columns are far too stiff esp for a machine that is designed for inversion and they cannot be either lubricated or removed without removing pins and regluing the nut.

3. The inversion nut works well but really needs a tommy bar to be of any use otherwise its a pain to turn such a small handle.

4. But the movement can be jerky when raising because of the strength of the springs.

I will see what Trend have to say but I am currently most likely to refuse replacement and ask for a refund on the grounds that I can't see how this isn't going to happen again and my lost work today is not something I wish to repeat - luckily it was recoverable but if I had been doing a more complex job then resetting may have taken a lot longer.

Cheers

Tim
 
Thanks for that info - was just about to place an order for one!
Probably go for the Makita 3612. It's for handheld use only as I have a Freud 2000 in the table and a Makita 1100 for 1/4" stuff.

Thanks again.
 
I have a Trend T9 that is only a few months old and I also have an Elu MOF96 that the trend is based on and I have to say I am not too impressed with the Trend machine in comparison. The plunge is far too 'notchy' and rough compered to the Elu machine which is around 15 years old now! I certainly won't be buying another Trend machine when I replace any of my routers in the future.
 
Hi TIm
Sorry to hear of your woes.
I, too, have the T11 and am very pleased with it, no problems so far. You are right in that it is a 177 with a revamped base. It's struck me that they have missed a great opportunity here to make a really excellent new router. The depth adjustment is good (I've not experience the too-strong-springs problem), but, as you say, there is no way of stopping debris entering the machine.

Ages ago I started a thread about the perfect router. It seems we are still some way off.

Hope you find a satisfactory solution to this.

Cheers
Steve
 
One of the reasons they stuck with the old Elu body is that they could use the same locking switch, if they went for a new body it would nave to have a spring loaded trigger to meet current regs and then not be so suitable for table work.

Jason
 
WoodMaster":39zxzmtr said:
Thanks for that info - was just about to place an order for one!
Probably go for the Makita 3612. It's for handheld use only as I have a Freud 2000 in the table and a Makita 1100 for 1/4" stuff.

Thanks again.

If its for hand held use only then the T10 would be better - ie no need for the inversion rod. I imagine though that it is fine for hand held use only.

Steve Maskery":39zxzmtr said:
It's strcuk me that they have missed a great opportunity here to make a reaaly excellent new router.

I agree.

Jason - I thought they had relaxed the regs on this again - do you know what the criteria are - there certainly doesn't seem to be any consistency.

Cheers

Tim
 
What is it with the EU? Surely there must be one of those bureaucrat's who uses a router and can explain to his gravy train colleagues that by making stupid regulations about things like on/off switches they actually make routers more dangerous, because your concentration is distracted trying to hold the bloody switch in the on position, or users fix it in the on position with adhesive tape or other make-shift measures. Also they are hampering the development of better products because no users want these stupid switches.

That's my rant for the day - that feels better 8)

Paul
 
I totally agree Paul and will never buy a router unless it has the slide on/off switch. Like most of the regulations now they assume everyone is an idiot. Who knows what will be next, wax crayons for marking maybe so we can't hurt ourselves with pointed pencils! :x
 
Roger Sinden":1yk9bjv4 said:
mailee":1yk9bjv4 said:
Who knows what will be next, wax crayons for marking maybe so we can't hurt ourselves with pointed pencils! :x

Rubber chisels?
Have you tried some of the chisels sold nowadays - they're already doing it! :lol:

Cheers, Alf
 
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