The counter argument was provided in the comment.You have not provided any counter argument.
Do you have one?
Migrant workers return home to make better lives in their country, thus raising the standard for their people and country.We'd still need the migrant workers but have to pay them fair wages. Seems a good idea.
If true it's the employers not the workers who lower the wages. We need better regulation on wages and conditions of work, for a level playing fieldMigrant workers return home to make better lives in their country, thus raising the standard for their people and country.
Mass immigration with no intention of return does no such thing.
It lowers wages for native people,
The counter argument was provided in the comment.
And how herd-following they are. Massively confected RW moral panic stampede.Well that just shows how unwoke they really are!
Physician heal thy self.Merel Juvenal!
Our man also said "....that no guilty man is acquitted if judged by himself".
Does this mean that people talking bolox always know they are wrong however much they deny it? Not in this forum IMHO!
UK has never had mass immigrationMass immigration with no intention of return does no such thing.
evidence show this is not correctIt lowers wages for native people
the housing crisis and crisis with public services is a result of decades of political failure, it is not the fault of migrantsLike building all the houses you’ll need
I’m a bit confused by this Jacob. We’re you meaning to address your comments to Spectric who had made the original post?Actually I've had several messages from forum members such as you describe, being very pleased to read so much in their support, coming from so many.
Maybe it's all better out than in?
Keep up the good work chaps!
PS One was an NHS doctor, another an ICU nurse. Others too.
Oddly enough I visited the doctor yesterday and had a trainee doc practicing on me, under supervision. She was a black girl from Nigeria (I think) and doing an excellent job.
Braverman yesterday, in an utterly odious presentation to the 'Popular Conservative group,' spoke of the 'lunatic woke virus working its way through the British state'. She's truly warped that one, I don't know why she doesn't just join reform rather than trying to further corrupt the tory party.And how herd-following they are. Massively confected RW moral panic stampede.
Sorry no I was just commenting on your comment about "potential forum members". Yes directed at Spectric one step removed!I’m a bit confused by this Jacob. We’re you meaning to address your comments to Spectric who had made the original post?
Good to know she's upset about the "lunatic woke virus".Braverman yesterday, in an utterly odious presentation to the 'Popular Conservative group,' spoke of the 'lunatic woke virus working its way through the British state'. She's truly warped that one, I don't know why she doesn't just join reform rather than trying to further corrupt the tory party.
I’m glad you managed to find figures that fall neatly inline with your with your belief system.UK has never had mass immigration
but those that come here to stay, contribute to the economy
evidence show this is not correct
"In 2018, the Migration Advisory Committee reviewed the results of studies conducted between 2003 and 2018 and drew three conclusions. First, immigration had little or no impact on average employment or unemployment of existing workers. Second, where an impact was found, it was usually concentrated among certain groups – i.e. a negative effect for those with lower education and a positive effect for those with higher levels of education. And third, the impact may depend on the economic cycle; some—though not all—studies have found adverse effects on employment or unemployment, specifically during downturns.
Similarly, the MAC review concluded that immigration had had little impact on average wages, according to previous research. Some studies had found a small negative impact on average wages, while others found positive average effects."
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-labour-market-effects-of-immigration/
the housing crisis and crisis with public services is a result of decades of political failure, it is not the fault of migrants
given that the UK has had low unemployment over the last 25 years when immigration has been relatively high, would indicate we have needed foreign workers to fuel our economy
You obviously haven't read it through- you must try harder!I’m glad you managed to find figures that fall neatly inline with your with your belief system.
Allow me to show you some opposing figures.
And by a corporation that is actually pro immigration.
Between 1999 and 2012, immigration from outside the EU was a net drain to the country of £125billion. That’s at a time when we hadn’t even heard of a billion.
That was also when it was running at 10’s of k’s per year. Not the 700k+ we see now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25880373
Your left wing virtue trolling, is certainly interesting but nobody survives in s system where there is so much chaos, people don’t even know where they are.
That is the world you want to create and normal people just aren’t going to put up with it, regardless if your cries about ‘muh economy’.
Funny how 'virtue' has become a dirty word - my guess is it's happened at the mouths of those who have none.Your left wing virtue trolling...
No but scrapping the only potential deterent before having something to replace it is a really stupid move because anything has to be better than nothing.You're blaming Starmer for the failed Rwanda scheme
No but it would be nice to have the skill to sharpen a chiesel !!!!Spectric has gone all Jacob on us.
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