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The road to hell must surely be paved with assumptions.......
Sawdust
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mr":1wabpsl9 said:
My son is learning to drive at the moment and his instructor specifically told him not to indicate when overtaking parked cars.
Mike
Thank God for some common. Here I think it's down to a small cadre of instructors.
The other two thing here that I have not experienced elsewhere is drivers making a right turn off of a main road insist on turning left first and making their turn from the kerb, not from the crown of the road. Tourists don't seem to do it, so once again it appears to be a local phenomenon.
The other thing is due to wheel shuffling as opposed to grasping the steering wheel and turning it, as a result many of our local drivers are incapable of turning from a side road without ending up part way over the central white line of the road they are joining.
As a consequence we have an extremely well stocked breakers and more body repair shops than I have ever seen previously in such a small community.
Roy.
The other two thing here that I have not experienced elsewhere is drivers making a right turn off of a main road insist on turning left first and making their turn from the kerb, not from the crown of the road. Tourists don't seem to do it, so once again it appears to be a local phenomenon.
The other thing is due to wheel shuffling as opposed to grasping the steering wheel and turning it, as a result many of our local drivers are incapable of turning from a side road without ending up part way over the central white line of the road they are joining.
As a consequence we have an extremely well stocked breakers and more body repair shops than I have ever seen previously in such a small community.
Roy.
dunbarhamlin
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The selective indicating thing is one reason I wouldn't consider an 'advanced' test - it seems like the ultimate arrogance to assume one is aware of all road users, in or out of line of sight, at the point of manouver, and contrary to the principles of good risk management.
An indicator also highlights an unusual condition to oncoming traffic - and so indicating when overtaking an obstacle IS justified. That parked car may have an occupant about to open their door - your indicator forwarns those behind and in front of the increased chances of an unexpected manouver.
I do think the highway code is very poorly managed, and that differences of tuition style are often due to minor changes which existing drivers are not made aware of. It would be sensible if the tax reminder highlighted all changes.
With biker adverts, for young bikers especially, I think we could do do with a second set which highlight that if a driver doesn't see you, you're the one who loses - so don't just think bike in a car, think hard to see fragile object if you're on a bike. Like bus and taxi drivers, many bikers make too many assumptions on the road. (And cyclists should have their bikes confiscated whenever they break the highway code)
Rant. rant, mutter, mutter
Steve
An indicator also highlights an unusual condition to oncoming traffic - and so indicating when overtaking an obstacle IS justified. That parked car may have an occupant about to open their door - your indicator forwarns those behind and in front of the increased chances of an unexpected manouver.
I do think the highway code is very poorly managed, and that differences of tuition style are often due to minor changes which existing drivers are not made aware of. It would be sensible if the tax reminder highlighted all changes.
With biker adverts, for young bikers especially, I think we could do do with a second set which highlight that if a driver doesn't see you, you're the one who loses - so don't just think bike in a car, think hard to see fragile object if you're on a bike. Like bus and taxi drivers, many bikers make too many assumptions on the road. (And cyclists should have their bikes confiscated whenever they break the highway code)
Rant. rant, mutter, mutter
Steve
RogerS
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dunbarhamlin":170wvdir said:.........
I do think the highway code is very poorly managed, and that differences of tuition style are often due to minor changes which existing drivers are not made aware of. ................
Rant. rant, mutter, mutter
Steve
Couldn't agree more with you. Here in Herefordshire, the instructors clearly don't bother to explain the purpose of those funny little orange things at the corners of the car. That's my pet hate...sitting waiting to pull out of a junction but there's an oncoming car from the right. No indicators. Until he/she is actually turning the corner.....may they suffer an early transmission failure :evil: :twisted:
There seems Rog to be a disconnection in some people's brains between the operation of indicators and the idea that they are meant to supply information to other road users.
The classical one is where you are waiting to turn from a side road and the oncoming driver waits till he is about to turn into your turning before indicating.
The other one is the old dear who insists on indicating her intention of turning right about five right junctions before she finally turns!
Roy.
The classical one is where you are waiting to turn from a side road and the oncoming driver waits till he is about to turn into your turning before indicating.
The other one is the old dear who insists on indicating her intention of turning right about five right junctions before she finally turns!
Roy.
You mean like the one I posted earlier Paul, about a young local woman reached a gated crossing, got out of her car, opened the first gate, got back into her car, drove onto the tracks, got out, closed the gate, opened the second one and turned around to find that her car had gone.
'Wasn't my fault!' she claimed.
Roy.
'Wasn't my fault!' she claimed.
Roy.
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Digit":hf9vfyir said:
Watching Raw Linseed Oil dry does that for me.
If you indicate your intentions always it becomes an automatic process and it doesn't cost anything! I must admit that lack of indicator use is my pet hate
(along with centre lane hoggers that is!)
Gower
(along with centre lane hoggers that is!)
Gower
I have spent a life time wondering whether they, and those who block supermaket gangways, are plain bloody awkward or totally unaware of what's going on around them.
And I still don't know the answer!
Roy.
And I still don't know the answer!
Roy.
At the hospital where I work the main entrance doors are operated by a push button, people insist on standing in front of the doors and chatting,when someone on the inside wanting to exit presses the button the doors hit the people chatting and they take umbrage :shock:
it's the same with the lifts! people want to get into the lift before the occupants have exited :?
Regards,
Rich.
it's the same with the lifts! people want to get into the lift before the occupants have exited :?
Regards,
Rich.
Shadowfax
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Roy, they are totally unaware!! There is a gene that cuts in at a certain age that causes people to do these things. Stopping in doorways is the first sign, followed by the ladies all getting curly perms and never combing the back.Digit":c0ejd6nm said:
The men start to wear three layers of clothing at all times, most often topped with an anorak of some kind. They also start to carry everything around in a bag with the strap across their chests. Ladies always go on holiday with a white cardigan, print dress with the bum accentuated by the cardigan and a pair of gold coloured shoes with a nearly-matching handbag.
Plastic rain hats always make an appearance at the same time as the gene becomes active.
One other noticeable trait is that some of these people are drivers. They cannot park a car at all and they certainly do not indicate unless it is too late and they cannot ever turn right off a main road because left turns are much less scary (as long as they can be approached from well out to the right or centre of the road at under 20mph).
Does any of this sound familiar?
SF
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