Some green oak work.........finished.

[MikeG.]

Right, I finally have the time to upload my weekend's work (or some of it at least).

I bought 3 pieces of 6"x4"x5' green oak from an excellent local woodyard.

Here is the "before" from 2 angles:

Two oak posts with beams over, looking a bit silly! Note that the posts are properly morticed into the beams, and are built into the floor.

I cut and shaped a beam and a couple of knees:

Note the 3 inch tenons on the ends of the beam.



Here is the "after":

There is quite a bit more to do .........

............but here is the puzzle (worth a pint to the first person to solve it and turn up on my doorstep demanding his prize!)........

How did I get the beam in place, with 2 complete intact tenons, and without moving the posts?

Mike

 

[Philly]

Ummmm......did you use magic??
Philly :wink:
P.s. Nice job!

 

[Steve Maskery]

Photoshop?
Coat
S

 

[MikeG.]

No & no.........


Pity........2 guys I wouldn't mind buying a pint!

Mike

 

[Woody Alan]

I have to say nice work, and I have to assume that those post are decorative and just swung over to allow the fit. However all that aside, I haven't given it too much thought due to the horrendous ugliness of whatever ***** (insert own expletive) ran a bit of grey T&E down a post like that and thought " yeah really proud of that sets it off a treat"

Alan,

P.S if I win the pint I'll be at the Fat cat Saturday ...none of your doorstep nonesense.

 

[Mr Ed]

No idea...I'm more interested in your explanation of the surface fixed twin and skin, what with you being a member of the Architectural profession and all that.. :shock: :lol:

Cheers, Ed

 

[MikeG.]

OK, Ok, get off my case!!

When I said there was a bit more work to do, doing a rebate down the posts and burying the wires is very much part of that ......I'll post a photo next week with no visible wires! I needed to let the posts shrink and twist before I tried to do a flush covering.......9 heating seasons should just about have doen the trick!

.....and no, there are no loose tenons involved......

Mike

edit......Alan, you changed your guess whilst I was writing........and you're still wrong!

 

[mailee]

Actually I was wondering how you did it before I read the rest of it?? I have no idea?? :?

 

[Davon]

:idea: I think you realised AFTER you cut the tenons, that you could not fit them in, so you cut off the tenons and still drilled and fitted dowels.

Davon

 

[Woody Alan]

edit......Alan, you changed your guess whilst I was writing........and you're still wrong!

My missus does it all the time ...nothing wrong with that Actually I just looked at the photos properly and realised you had real tenons sticking out, even though I was clearly "correctly" obsessed with the T&E.

Alan.

P.S I am an old relative of someones and I'm still going to make the Fat Cat

 

[Jake]

Cut the beam in two and scarfed it back together again?

 

[Doug B]

Are the existing tenons loose ones, that are accessed from the top of the beam (in the floor void or roof space).
Thus removal of the tenon would allow enough movement of the up right, to fit the new section.
I will withhold my opinion of the twin & earth cables, as i seem to recognise the settle in the background.

Doug.

 

[MikeG.]

Doug........no, the posts didn't move a millimetre.

Jake......I don't follow........elucidate?

Davon.......no.........the tenons are still there, are still 3 inches long, and the pegs go through them.

Mike

 

[Jake]

If you didn't follow it, it can't be what you did!

I meant cut the beam on the diagonal into two, push one end in, slide the other half in over the top (the mortice would have to have a bit of slack that side) and then glue it back together.

 

[Grinding One]

I think you may have hollowed out the cross timber to its brace tendon,slideing in a tendon through the hole.Dowling it then fasten the brace up and dowling it.
Do I have to come to England just to get one Beer??

 

[wizer]

Did you use a wall paper stripper to bend the whole lot and then a hair dryer to dry it back into shape?

No?

Then it must be a Jedi Mind Trick

The Force is Strong with this one

 

[Davon]

Very clever Grinding One, even if it's not right it's still very clever. =D>

 

[OPJ]

Note that the posts are properly morticed into the beams...

No, Mike. :roll: They are tenonned in to the beams; it's the beams themselves which have the mortises cut! :wink:

I'm still scratching my head over how you got the new beam in place... I was thinking along the same line as Doug...

Is there a reason we can't have a photo' from the other side... :?: :wink:

 

[Karl]

Did you rip the beam in half down its length, route mortices for loose tenons in each half, then sandwich the loose tenons in between the ripped beam?

Beffudled.

Cheers

Karl

 

[Steve Maskery]

Ah, that's a good idea.

Rip the beam into three, scarf the centre, glue the faces back on.

Hmm, you'd see the glue line from underneath, but a bit of distressing and gubbins and you'd never know.

S