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I'm thinking there's a couple of candidates who seem unaware of those 'pesky' things called 'facts' and rather sprout off garbage...
Agreed but you seem to carry on. Basic understanding air goes into the engine, oxygen from that air is removed and the resultant gases from combustion emitted from the exhaust. The amount of oxygen in the exhaust substantially reduced from the amount taken in by the engine. It doesnt take long for the level of oxygen to be reduced such that it can no longer support life.
 
And your gas boiler doesn't have a cat does it, so it produces ballpark 50 times as much co as your car idling. Before cats were introduced your car would be producing around 90+ times as much CO as a modern cat equipped vehicle. So the level of CO would reach lethal levels very quickly.
But I repeat, in a modern cat equipped vehicle, you will die from asphyxiation long before CO poisoning gets you, because the CO represents 0.2% of the exhaust, the other 99.08% of which is incapable of sustaining your life. So you will die due to lack of oxygen long before CO can build to lethal levels. Those are the facts, go and do some sums.
 
Reading through the posts is it not the case that before improvements were made to petrol and diesel engines the exhaust fumes would kill you with the high level of carbon monoxide being the cause?

Now that engines have been improved the exhaust fumes will still kill but more slowly as the level of carbon monoxide has been greatly reduced and the cause of death will be suffocation as the gases in the exhaust fumes replace the oxygen in the air?

Don’t try this at home.
 
Agreed but you seem to carry on. Basic understanding air goes into the engine, oxygen from that air is removed and the resultant gases from combustion emitted from the exhaust. The amount of oxygen in the exhaust substantially reduced from the amount taken in by the engine. It doesnt take long for the level of oxygen to be reduced such that it can no longer support life.
You will be dead long before the oxygen in the air is reduced to where it won't support life...

(I tend to be paranoid because I used to work welding in confined spaces in my younger days- where air supply quality is vital- people have died from air contamination)

Here you have to pass a specialised course before you are legally allowed to do 'confined space welding' and you get some pretty graphic warnings of what happens when people ignore the basic safety rules...

So when people start sprouting what you find behind the south end of a northbound male bovine- well I will say my piece- and back it up with actual facts...

Something notably lacking from the other side so far- just snide comments and innuendo...
 
go and do some sums.
So far, the ONLY person who has done so- is ME...
You made the claim that your car/garage is so airtight that oxygen can't get in to replenish what is used... step up and present your evidence of this rather extraordinary claim....
 
Reading through the posts is it not the case that before improvements were made to petrol and diesel engines the exhaust fumes would kill you with the high level of carbon monoxide being the cause?

Now that engines have been improved the exhaust fumes will still kill but more slowly as the level of carbon monoxide has been greatly reduced and the cause of death will be suffocation as the gases in the exhaust fumes replace the oxygen in the air?

Don’t try this at home.
Short of supergluing your lips to the exhaust pipe and sealing your nostrils shut- NO car or building is that airtight that the oxygen in the air around you won't be replenished at a far greater rate than it is being used...
 
Short of supergluing your lips to the exhaust pipe and sealing your nostrils shut- NO car or building is that airtight that the oxygen in the air around you won't be replenished at a far greater rate than it is being used...
I think we will agree to disagree on this for the sake of other members on the forum.

J
 
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