Shed build

[KevB]

Once the feather edge is completed the total cost so far is £284 ccasion5:

 

[Paul200]

Happy New Year Kev!

 

[KevB]

Happy New Year Kev!

Happy new year mate, hope you had a good one ccasion5:

Enjoyed a nice quite one in this year, with the pregnant mrs and a Chinese :mrgreen:

 

[Paul200]

:wink: Too good, I think! Did you notice the time I posted that :? Life in the old dog yet! :lol: :lol:

Well impressed with your cost so far - and the fact that it's mostly recycled is even better. Well done.

 

[KevB]

:wink: Too good, I think! Did you notice the time I posted that :? Life in the old dog yet! :lol: :lol:

Well impressed with your cost so far - and the fact that it's mostly recycled is even better. Well done.

Cheers mate

Haha yeah I did notice and I was thinking you must have been partying :mrgreen:

Managed to get some more of the cladding on the front today. I've only done the sides, part of the back and a little around the front and I can't move the shed at all when trying to rock it 8)

I need to start thinking about what's going to go on the roof..

I've got the boards, just need something to waterproof it. What do you guys think is my best option on a £50-100 budget?

Just out of curiosity, I priced epdm and for the size of my roof, it would cost £140. Can this be fixed to the roof without gluing it? Stretched and sandwiched between the facia/eging of the shed..?

Well that's be done now until next weekend, think I've done around 4 days on it over the hols, so I guess the wife has been generous :mrgreen:

 

[KevB]

Starting to come together :mrgreen:

Fixed a temporary cover to the roof. It has really made a big difference as it allows me to get on with other things under cover, whilst I wait for my dad to become available to help me with the roof.

Very happy with it so far and it's a nice little space inside. I'm now thinking about getting rid of my other shed and building another one in it's place, the same depth and height as this one, as well as gaining a foot or so in length. I'll put my weights bench in that and keep this one for my little projects :mrgreen:

 

[Paul200]

Wow! Some progress there! Looks great Kev.

Don't know anything about EPDM but I've seen it has been used by a few people on here. That price sounds good and I doubt if good quality mineral felt would be much cheaper. Hopefully someone will be along to tell you how to install it

 

[KevB]

My mate said today, when I showed him a picture, that it looked like a pigeon coop [-( (hammer) hahaha :mrgreen:

Hopefully it'll look a bit more 'un-coop' like once I've stained it :mrgreen:

 

[KevB]

Hi guys

I'm a little stuck for ideas with the windows and doors, can anyone help me out..?

Windows - I have 6mm thick plastic cut to size. At first I was thinking of making windows that open, though now that I've thought about it, I don't think they are necessary. Should I just mitre another slaters lath frame inside the opening, then another lath frame inside and behind, sandwiching the plastic in between? I have enough plastic to double up, would this be a good idea to take it to 12mm? Or should I be using some other sort of wooden framing?

Doors - I have two solid doors and they are painted black. Do you think I need to sand these right back? I'm not sure of my options here. I was thinking about painting the doors, all of the shed trim, window trims and maybe even facia boards all a slightly different colour/shade to the stain on the feather edge. Do you guys reckon this would work?

This way, by painting the doors, I wouldn't have to sand them bare. Is there a paint that would go with a (eg - dark/medium brown) stain?

Could really do with some advice on this as I don't want to end up with a massive eyesore of a shed (hammer) :mrgreen:

There's a short video here and I quite like this colour..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1stYB5_yR5k

Is there any reason why I wouldn't get the same finish/colour on my feather edge as the guy in this vid?

 

[Paul200]

Paint/stain it whatever colours you want mate. A painted door and windows would look nice - that's what we did on our summer house. Didn't stain the cladding because it was well treated beforehand - will probably give it a spray with something clear later on - we like the natural look. I've used that brown stain before and it does the job, didn't seem to last very long though and once you've done it, and it then wears off in patches, you have to keep going over with the same stuff. That's why I prefer a clear treatment. Although you could argue that you will never know if the clear stuff has worn off

Not sure about doubling the plastic on the windows. If it's not proper double glazing it will just be a moisture trap. The method sounds good though.

Cheers

Paul

 

[blackrodd]

Mitres aren't usually used as you have done with you're window framing, as the mitres tend to shrink, most at the "feather end leaving gaps for the rain to get in and several other reasons.
I would cut the batten for you're window "glass" snug at top and bottom, (head and cill) first, and nail or screw, then the sides or stiles, bevel off the bottom or cill to throw the water off and seal in position with proper polycarbonate sealer, cut any excess off after it is set and go round and seal the surface angle where the two meet, when all is dry to stop water ingress.
Fit stop batten on the inside in the same fashion, job done!
Regards Rodders
Ps Lovely shed!!

 

[KevB]

Hi guys

Thanks very much for the replies, it's much appreciated

Paul - Hmm I still can't decide on this. I think I would definitely like to stain it a nice colour, as I do think it looks a bit like a pigeon coup in it's current state haha :mrgreen: I'm hoping that if I pick the right colour/stain, it will make it look a lot prettier and I might even catch my wife staring at it :mrgreen: I've got a while to think about this yet, so will do some more research to help me make the right choice.

Yeah I was thinking that if I doubled up the plastic, it may trap moisture. Can anyone give me a certain answer on this? If it weren't to trap the moisture, I think i'd go ahead with it, if it helped towards keeping the cold weather out..

Rodders - Ah ok mate, thanks for letting me know. I'm learning all of the time when building this shed and advice like this is very much appreciated. If/when they do shrink, i'll unscrew them back off and fit them next time with square cuts. When I do build my next shed/workshop however many years down the line, it's little things like this that i'll remember :mrgreen:

Ok, sounds like a plan with the windows. How would I go about beveling the cill? I only have a mitre saw, though I have just bought a router? I haven't a clue how to use it mind :roll:

Thanks for the compliment. I'm still very much enjoying it as a first go at something like this. The only thing I think I should have spent a little more time on is the floor framing and how it is fixed to the posts. You see, my dad likes to work quick and he hates it when I stop, think and stare at things haha (hammer) :mrgreen: I sort of lost track of what screws were going in where, and how many etc. I wish I had of bolted the frame through all posts as Paul suggested, though now I only have access to the posts running centrally through the floor (which I have bolted). Another lesson learned for next time.

One other thing - I couldn't get access to the back right hand side of the shed (too close to fence). Meaning I have three corners bolted together, with that corner left out. I couldn't even get in to drill a hole with one of those right angle drill adapter thingies (hammer)

Anyways, managed to finish pretty much all of the feather edge today..

Tomorrow I'm going to have a go at sanding those doors I have

Edit : oh and I've ruined my grass directly around the shed (hammer) please please please grow back [-o<

 

[Paul200]

Edit : oh and I've ruined my grass directly around the shed (hammer) please please please grow back [-o<

Ha! If there's one thing grass does really well it's growing :evil: Just you wait - you'll live to regret those words :roll:

Looking really good Kev. As far as coloured stain goes I guess I'm looking at it from my own perspective. We live in a very rural (wild?) area where the 'natural' look is more in keeping (and keeps our few neighbours and the local council happy). If you're more urban (and I don't know) then a coloured stain would look tidier. Your call bud

 

[KevB]

Haha Paul, well I do hope it does grow back, just not too long that it takes over my shed (hammer) :mrgreen: I sort of live in an urban village, there are fields, greenery and even horses around :mrgreen: , though we are surrounded by other houses.

I managed to start the sanding on the doors today..

I still can't decide on what to colour it with.. I'm now thinking I may just paint the whole thing, rather than trying to match stain to paint. Do you guys think brown would go with green trim? Not too heavy of a colour, something more natural looking..

Maybe paint the featheredge and doors brown and the trim/facia green? Or the other way around? I think i'm quite happy to use paint as long as it doesn't look too vivid and end up not blending in with the garden.

Here's a link as an example..

https://www.cuprinol.co.uk/garden_colour/colour_selector/index.jsp

I quite like the seasoned oak, with an old English green trim. Do you think this goes together?

Any advice from you experienced shed/workshop builders would be much appreciated

Oh and with the doors. Should I notch out the frame and sit the hinges behind, or sit them in front of the trim?

 

[Abigkid]

Thanks for sharing your Kev, very helpful for me as I look to build something similar one day. I think seasoned oak would look great.

 

[KevB]

Thanks for sharing your Kev, very helpful for me as I look to build something similar one day. I think seasoned oak would look great.

Thanks mate, glad my thread is giving you some inspiration

Well today at work I made my first attempt in person at asking for any unwanted off cuts. During my break I had a walk around to the nearby community centre that is being demolished. A chap showed me some polystyrene sheets that he said I could have if I wanted them. They are just small cuts, so i'd have to piece them in between the walls or floor. They are, I think, around 40-50mm thick.

Can anyone tell me whether standard polystyrene sheets are a good enough insulation for sheds? They don't have foil on or anything.

 

[mindthatwhatouch]

Hi Kev.
Ordinary Polystyrene is fine, not as good an insulator as PUR (the denser foam with the foil on it)
One problem is some people don't like it because its nasty in a fire, but then in a wooden shed full of wood.... have to make up your own mind on that one.

 

[KevB]

Hi Kev.
Ordinary Polystyrene is fine, not as good an insulator as PUR (the denser foam with the foil on it)
One problem is some people don't like it because its nasty in a fire, but then in a wooden shed full of wood.... have to make up your own mind on that one.

Hmm yeah mate I know what you mean. It does worry me a little, though it will be behind osb boards and I would hope that any fire that may happen, I would be able to put out before it gets to this stuff :shock:

I picked some up today..

It's around 40-50mm thick and I could maybe just use it under the floor? Does anybody else have any thoughts or concerns about using this?

 

[blackrodd]

polystyrene was the main site insulation not too long ago, That's a nice stack for a freebie, well done!
plenty Good for shed insulation, cut with a blunt handsaw, if you have one,
Rodders

 

[KevB]

Rodders - I'm getting a load more of it tomorrow, maybe up to 4 times as much as that :mrgreen: It's 2.4m long, though only 350mm wide. But that's ok as I may put and extra thin length of wood in the floor at every middle joint, to support them.

Can you believe I managed to fit that first lot into a small kia picanto haha.

They took this up from beneath an indoor bowiling green at a community centre they are demolishing, i'm assuming it's pretty much the same, if not identical to the insulation they used to use back then..