Agreed. I usually wipe the end of the tool with a marker pen, and then a quick pass on the (in my case) Pro-Edge shows I've removed the smallest amount of material sufficient to sharpen the tool, and back to the lathe.
Why not?
Millions of people have been doing it for thousands of years, and still are!
Of course. But nowhere near as well.
What have you turned recently yourself?
So you would never attempt simple maths, with a pencil, on the back of an envelope, you'd rather wait until you had got back to your Sinclair ZX80?I don't remember anyone on this thread saying they had difficulty sharpening, it's your old oft trotted out phrase, broken record style.
There are countless methods and practices in all walks of life that have been around for hundreds or thousands of years, it doesn't mean they haven't evolved into better more efficient alternatives. If you really believe that isn't so then maybe you should ask the doc to do some blood letting next time you are ill or swap your bike for a penny farthing, start your car with a handl;e through the bumper and maybe throw away your laptop and go back to a BBC-b or Sinclair ZX80 with no internet. Actually that might be an improvement - would give the rest of us a break.
Totally impossible on an oil stone to quickly put an edge on a scraper every few minutes! I can do on a 600 grit wheel with my jig in less than 30 seconds. And every edge is identical.Exactly and that goes for some of the resin blanks as well.
There are times when scrapers need to be used and a fresh edge needed every few minutes so the cut rather than tear, try doing those quickly on an oil stone or diamond plate. Using a grinder or pro-edge takes a couple of seconds.
No need for anyone to spend hundreds on a pro-edge if the budget doesn't allow (though I think they're worth it and wouldn't part with mine). Get a s/h belt sander and make up a stand and rest or if the lathe has an outboard facility on the headstock stick on a faceplate with abrasive,
You do know every walk of life and forum has a Jacob. What you have to do is get on ignore. Then you can finally get back to your iTunes rather sitting having to skip over the broken scratched , out of date record that keeps getting played on the old gramophone!I don't remember anyone on this thread saying they had difficulty sharpening, it's your old oft trotted out phrase, broken record style.
There are countless methods and practices in all walks of life that have been around for hundreds or thousands of years, it doesn't mean they haven't evolved into better more efficient alternatives. If you really believe that isn't so then maybe you should ask the doc to do some blood letting next time you are ill or swap your bike for a penny farthing, start your car with a handl;e through the bumper and maybe throw away your laptop and go back to a BBC-b or Sinclair ZX80 with no internet. Actually that might be an improvement - would give the rest of us a break.
But Phil, what Jacob keeps saying is he is stuck on the old stuff, yes people in the Stone Age always rubbed two sticks together to start a fire. It's easy, there are sticks every where. Jacob can show you how. It's easy. But I just use a match I'm to lazy! I keep up with technology. Thinks move on because they get quicker. As per doing math on a piece of paper, I still do it when my iPhone is dead!
Never had a Sinclair, did have a Commodore 64 though but of course I use a pencil and paper that's recycled, don't need envelopes however the humble pencil was a vast improvement over the previous sharpened charred sticks or bits of stone used to write on clay so your logic says you shouldn't be using anything as modern as a mass produced pencil. As they were first mass produced in the 1600s they've stood the test of time, not everything has.So you would never attempt simple maths, with a pencil, on the back of an envelope, you'd rather wait until you had got back to your Sinclair ZX80?
Hi Lefley, I know all about Jacob, I've been a member on here quite a long time. It's just fun pulling the tail of the old goat occasionally, easily done on a couple of his pet subjects.
If they are genuine Ashley, Isle tools give the factory a ring and I think they sharpen the tools to the grind or angle of grind when they were sold from the factory FOC depending how far away you live from Ashley Isles Factory which is just north of Boston Lincolnshire, you could take them in there
Rules of thumb and easiest to remember is 60º+ for scrapers and bowl gouges, 45º for spindle roughing out gouges, 45º included angle (i.e. 22.5º each side) for skew chisels, 30º for spindle gouges with a curved edge, but there's lots of variations and other ways and it's easy to get confused!.
It seems many use the tungsten inert tips for resin which are really scrapers as they don’t use the bevel but probably required for resin or the other popular turning of end grain now. Fashions change.Exactly and that goes for some of the resin blanks as well.
There are times when scrapers need to be used and a fresh edge needed every few minutes so the cut rather than tear, try doing those quickly on an oil stone or diamond plate. Using a grinder or pro-edge takes a couple of seconds.
No need for anyone to spend hundreds on a pro-edge if the budget doesn't allow (though I think they're worth it and wouldn't part with mine). Get a s/h belt sander and make up a stand and rest or if the lathe has an outboard facility on the headstock stick on a faceplate with abrasive,
