Searching for replacement pulley's for Peform CCL and SIP Lathes

[paragon428]

HI guys and gals
I recently have pusrchased a couple of lathes as the title suggests. I have had a search on the www but so far cannot find anywhere that I can purchase replacement variable speed pulleys. The SIP lathe pulleys have chunks missing and I am guessing that is what is leading to it chewing up belts.

Any help anyone can provide on Perform or SIP spares would be greatly appreciated.

Tom

 

[Terry - Somerset]

These are common to a lot of badge engineered lathes. Not sure whether they will be the best price but you could try Axminster who used to sell Perform lathes and are generally very good on spares supply.

 

[Ttrees]

Ebay has some I believe.
Likely a good idea to look at folks changing these out on youtube
on their Harbor Frieght flavour.
Chas (CHJ) has written a bit about these Reeves drive pulleys here with his perform machine and might have another link somewhere.

Tom

 

[Inspector]

You might want to consider removing the Reeves Drive stuff and replacing with a 3 phase motor and a VFD (variable frequency drive). It may cost more but easier to adjust the speed and with a step pulley would give you a greater range of speeds.

Pete

 

[Ttrees]

And more power, as the solid bed makes a good basis for tinkering with.

Tom

 

[clogs]

be nice to see a few pictures.......
i have a couple of machines with pulley'swith quite large chunks missing from their outter rims.....
They were a tommorow job that never came....
all I did was to file the edges off the broken bits and the belts have lasted just as long...
1 machine has a 5hp Honda driving it.....
I have enq about spares from SIP and frankly unless it is a new current model, forget it....
the inspector is quite right...almost money no object....just make sure it's ur forever lathe due cost....
put it this way.....try my way and if it fails the belts are just a few quid....then go the whole hog on doing it properly...good luck....

 

[paragon428]

be nice to see a few pictures.......
i have a couple of machines with pulley'swith quite large chunks missing from their outter rims.....
They were a tommorow job that never came....
all I did was to file the edges off the broken bits and the belts have lasted just as long...
1 machine has a 5hp Honda driving it.....
I have enq about spares from SIP and frankly unless it is a new current model, forget it....
the inspector is quite right...almost money no object....just make sure it's ur forever lathe due cost....
put it this way.....try my way and if it fails the belts are just a few quid....then go the whole hog on doing it properly...good luck....

Thanks, here are a few pics as suggested, agreed maybe for the price of a belt £5 some fettling could be the answer.

 

[Ttrees]

Bit expensive for some new ones it seems, I see Charnwood has seemingly the best price, don't seem to be on the bay anymore.
I would expect that you can get cheaper if you keep searching, as I've seen someone get a Jet one in the youtube comments for something like 12 dollars, but that was likely some time ago.
https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/threads/self-destructing-lathe.120591/https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/threads/perform-ccbl-lathe-pulley.77672/https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/threads/charnwood-motor-pulley-set-for-w812-w813-w870-lathe.123145/Tom

 

[njwwright]

I have a draper wtl90 with a broken pully on the motor spindle. As of Feb 2024 Charnwood still do them them for £45 but phoned Axminster and told them I have one of the Axminster version of the lathe and they sell them for £26 so considerably cheaper.
This thread was really helpful so thank you. Also another very helpful thread was https://www.awgb.co.uk/awgbforum/index.php?topic=7053.0

 

[shumphr1]

I've got a SIP 01490 and I've just ordered the same, 2 pairs of pulleys from axminster, £53 delivered, just hope they fit! I asked for the same pulleys as the axminster as per the compatibility list on the charnwood links above. I'll keep you updated.

 

[Dabop]

One thing many seem stuck on is 'has to come from the manufacturer'- grab a set of calipers (or even a ruler will do usually) measure the shaft diameter (yours appears to be a keyway pulley so add that fact to the shaft size) and the outer pulley dimension and look for V belt pulleys with those specs...

That looks like a keyway (bottom in the center)

Pulleys are available in a HUGE variety of different sizes and types- the hardest bit will be finding one that is the same size as yours in amongst the thousands/tens of thousands of variants available!!!
Don't know about the UK, but I use Aims here in Australia- have found some pretty oddball stuff just by doing as I outlined above- and they are just one firm here that has a huge selection to choose from- remember most electric motors are (despite the manufacturers labels) usually only a limited number of shaft sizes, same with pulley diameters tend to go in similar 'steps' in size, and V belts are only made in a limited number of different 'V's sizes...

ETA- you might even have a couple of alternative mounting options there- there appears to be a thread on the actual motor shaft with a 'keyway adapter'- if that is what is there (bit hard to judge from that photo but definitely looks like it may be) then you could either go the keyed pulley or a screw pulley (or get a blank shaft pulley and thread it yourself with a tap...)
There's a LOT of options out there... (steel or aluminium or alloy- even plastic/nylon ones, single speed or multispeed 'stepped' pulleys)- if it's been made, it's likely available from companies that specialize in them... (and likely much cheaper than a OEM manufacturers 'spare part' - even assuming it is available still through them)
Just something to consider...

 

[shumphr1]

I have to say by far, these two videos gave me full insight into the repair job of the pulleys and bearings and notably shows there are 3 bearings.
Just shows you can save so much money by getting non-manufacturer parts. SIP pulleys are £75 a pair, the belt is £24 and the bearings £21 each.
Manufacturer parts total: £237 !!!!!!!!!!
My total: £81 ish
Repair videos:


pulleys - Order over the phone from Axminster. As per the Charnwood pages above there is compatibility between Axminster and SIP lathes. it seems the 01940 has a lot of overlap with my earlier 01490 so I expect the pulleys to fit. Delivered was £53. Here is the contact page: https://www.axminstertools.com/contact
bearings - on mine the first is spec 60072RS - 60 indicates it's a part of the "6000" series, which are generally single-row deep groove ball bearings. The 07 represents a 35mm inner diameter and the 2RS represents 2 rubber seals. Full spec is 35mm inner diameter, 62 outer and 14mm width
loads to choose from on ebay, 1 needed for the moving pulley on the spindle - 1 for less than £5 on ebay
Also 2 more bearings needed for the spindle, 5205 RZ 52mm outer, 25mm inner and 15mm width - ebay about £10 each

Belt - its a Z23 belt which specifies a v-belt with 6mm inner width, 10mm outer width and 23 = 23 inches or 584 mm internal diameter of the belt. Wait for it, £2.58 delivered from Ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334709066204

I have to say you can spend way more on the promise of the best quality spares for the belts and bearings but I am not sure you get the extra value for money. Stainless steel bearings would cost more, ceramic hybrid much more but in all honesty, the potential load on the spindle could mean ceramic hybrid bearings are at risk of shock damage and I am advised to stick with metal bearings. Belts similarly, I bought 2 actually one as a spare, at 2.58 each I could have 9 belts for the price of one from the manufacturer!
Anyway hope this is helpful, best regards