Any rose experts about? I've been given some bare root climbing roses from Ā£land for a raised planter I'm planning to build at school, garden plants are a subject I'm only just getting into so need advice.
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Tris
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What's the variety name? That'll help to know how high itll get and what sort of support it'll need
All I know for sure is that i need to soak them before planting, the planned location should be good, it's south facing and gets good sun all morning and by mid summer that extends to around 2pm but stays bright all day.
The "instructions" are not clear at all.
The "instructions" are not clear at all.
The packet says up to 4m.
profchris
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4m on heavy clay, less on light soil.
You'll want to train the shoots horizontally in year 1. Posts and galvanised wire work, and the wire becomes invisible in year 2. Tie loosely as the stems get quite thick, and train the shoots in spirals along the wires.
I put posts around 6m apart, 3 lines of wire, and a rose at each post. I was overrun in year 3, but I'm on clay. That might work if Aldershot has sandy soil, in which case get some organic matter dug in when you plant.
After a couple of years you'll need a hedge trimmer,, not pruning shears!
No, I haven't built the bed yet, it will be behind the railing against the wall, I'm pretty sure the wall isn't wide enough for 5 plants though
To be honest I'll be happy if I get them to 1m
, one site I've looked at suggested that containers will restrict the size of the plant as the roots will go deep and wide, I'm tempted to lift a slab for each rose I put in and just make a frame for each one, I'm thinking possibly 3 but it also said that they shouldn't be planted close together so maybe just 2 of them 
Tris
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It's likely that just one of those will be able to cover that wall. The white one looks similar to a Rosa felipes, some of which can make 80ft of growth. I'd put it to grow up a big tree somewhere just in case.
The red Paul's Scarlet is a good one, flowers repeatedly and not too thorny. Prone to getting mildew so perhaps better up an arch where it'll get more air round it.
I'd put the yellow one on the wall, just cos it'll stand out well against the brickwork, and the pink and purple ones as pillar roses on some stout posts, either an 8ft high 4" post or a strong wooden obelisk
The red Paul's Scarlet is a good one, flowers repeatedly and not too thorny. Prone to getting mildew so perhaps better up an arch where it'll get more air round it.
I'd put the yellow one on the wall, just cos it'll stand out well against the brickwork, and the pink and purple ones as pillar roses on some stout posts, either an 8ft high 4" post or a strong wooden obelisk
So i let the intrusive thoughts win and lifted a slab, then decided to see how deep the backfill is, I'm about 450mm deep so far.
How deep should I go?
Whats best to fill with? I have loads of mulched woodchip I can mix with soil.
Once i plant the rose how much do I cut back? The stem seems to be covered in wax on all of them.
How deep should I go?
Whats best to fill with? I have loads of mulched woodchip I can mix with soil.
Once i plant the rose how much do I cut back? The stem seems to be covered in wax on all of them.
Tris
What am I doing here?
Tris
What am I doing here?
The wax is normally used to protect a graft. Means the root is different from the rose variety. Done because the dog rose rootstock will grow just about anywhere and support the variety grafted on to it well. Does mean you have to watch out for 'suckers' growing from the roots which are more vigorous and will weaken the variety unless you cut them off
It's not the graft point, that's wrapped in plastic with a little substrate, 2 of them have thick stems and the other 3 are thin
Tris
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In that case I can only guess it's to stop them drying out indoors before getting sold. To be honest those don't look like it worked.
I'd be putting them in pots for now and see how they are doing by June. They'll plant out easily enough and you'll have saved yourself a lot of work if they fail
I'd be putting them in pots for now and see how they are doing by June. They'll plant out easily enough and you'll have saved yourself a lot of work if they fail
May do that if I can find some big enough pots, the box shows the stem being cut after planting but it's not clear how much to trim
Tris
What am I doing here?
I'd leave them as they are until you can see where a bud will develop from, then cut back to that. You may well know this but cut a few mm above the bud, with a slight angle across so it slopes back from the bud side of the stem. It only needs be a few degrees but it helps prevent dieback at this stage
