Saw stop ( USA )

[Jacob]

@Jacob admitting to a near miss is not something I expected to hear - kudos to you for your honesty.

No, everybody makes mistakes.

Your persistence in the 2 push sticks is a credit to you .

Pure self interest! And costs very little.

It makes sense and I find it a little awkward tbh on larger pieces but I will persevere next time I’m using my saw. I appreciate any advice especially from those more experienced than myself . My 30 + years at B gas I was force fed safety over and over and whilst some of it was useful and worth knowing most of it was pretty basic and mind numbing. Personally I find my chainsaws far more likely to inflict serious injury hence the safety trousers , gloves , helmet and goggles , and of course my boots as a minimum.

Part of the problem is that HSE advice is in need of revision. It hasn't caught up with the explosion in usage of powered woodwork machinery over the last 50 years or so.

 

[TRITON]

He walketh anongst us spreading his gospel ...

 

[Jacob]

He walketh anongst us spreading his gospel ...
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Yes you lucky people! And what do I get in return, nothing but sarcasm and abuse!
Actually it isn't my gospel, it was somebody on here years ago whose name I didn't take note of.
Seems to be spreading though and quite pleasing to think that it might actually have saved a few fingers, not just mine!

 

[Eshmiel]

Part of the problem is that HSE advice is in need of revision. It hasn't caught up with the explosion in usage of powered woodwork machinery over the last 50 years or so.

True but that's perhaps a small part of the problem, since very few who buy and use a tablesaw are anyway made to read and understand that advice. We are "free" to buy and use dangerous things in an ignorant and dangerous way. "Don't need no steenkin' HSE crap". Many fail to RTFM as they feel, "Don't need no steenkin' manual".

But perhaps more to the point, there are thousands of readily-available and dominant examples of very dangerous tablesaw use in the woodworking mass-media. It isn't just macho-men on YouTube (although they are the worst offenders) but supposedly responsible magazines showing unguarded blades with hands pushing stuff into them very close to the blade and with no sign of push sticks, feather boards or, even now, a riving knife.

What's needed is a rather large and strict nanny.

 

[Eshmiel]

Yes you lucky people! And what do I get in return, nothing but sarcasm and abuse!
Actually it isn't my gospel, it was somebody on here years ago whose name I didn't take note of.
Seems to be spreading though and quite pleasing to think that it might actually have saved a few fingers, not just mine!

Dear Jacob,

Although I admit to enjoying making the odd sarky response to some of your more adamant blares on one of your various trumpets, I do appreciate a great deal of what you say and take useful stuff from it. So do some others, I have seen in their responses. So don't be discouraged. Or get pouty-duchess, neither.

Perhaps you could turn the volume control down on your trumpets or every now and then play a lighter trill on a flute? But please don't be put off or indulge in feelings of persecutions. I find you to be an essential ingredient in this place and a great tester of my foolish certainties. Huzzah for Jacob and his spicey flavouring of what otherwise might be a rather duller discussion dish!

 

[TRITON]

It's actually mitre saws in the hands of the amateur that worry me the most. Seen the aftermath(on TV/media) of people reaching in under the blade to remove the cut piece and their jumper catching the teeth, resulting in complete amputation of hand or lower arm, which as we know happens in the blink of an eye.
It's always a cheap saw, and the spring on the guard has failed and never been replaced, or that he guard spring isnt strong enough to snap the guard back over when the saw is released, leaving a gap between the leading edge of the guard and the blade.

Another sure fire way is someone unfamiliar with the safety aspects and buys a hand held circular saw, then curls their fingers around the part they are cutting off in a way of steadying or in anticipation of the cut piece coming away and the run the saw through their fingers.

Unfortunately there's no sawstop system available for those kind of tools and not even the safety of push sticks, or proper guarding and its all down to ignorance and/or laziness