President Elect's 'top team'

[Chris152]

It could well lead to significant social unrest, who knows - a post-capitalist form of civil war? Make no mistake, trump and project 2025 begins to align the US with other authoritarian states.

 

[sploo]

Will this do?



Let me know which number you want to go for.
It’s even one of your lefty hangouts ‘Novara Media’

That's a truly devastating critique of the man, and I fully agree that makes it completely clear he's a much much less trustworthy person than Boris Johnson.

A politician brown-nosing a colleague then later distancing themselves because it suits them is a truly horrendous crime and absolutely much worse than serial adultery, overseeing fraudulent contracts, and partying while your gran dies ("let the bodies pile high").

(being serious: it's poor behaviour, but hardly evidence of a "compulsive liar")

...and that isn't me!

...and that's a staggeringly well thought out and reasoned rebuttal to my statement; for which I must concede you're right. Your debating skills are truly matched by your ability to process evidence.

 

[ey_tony]

the solution is
A) tax wealth the same as income
B) increase taxes on the wealthy
C) reduce private ownership and create more public ownership
D) bring contracts back in house.....council are doing this
E) a mass council house building programme
F) increase opportunities for people by education
G) increase subsidy of childcare

but the real way to transform this country is to regulate the press properly so that billionaire owners of the Daily Mail ands Telegraph are no longer able to manipulate the general public

Increase the subsidy of childcare???? For goodness sake next we'll be paying chavs to have kids. There's far too much by way of subsidies for parents. I don't know how they would have managed when I was young and breeding with a WIFE!

Starmer has seen to it with his IT that many wealthy people will be queuing to leave the country such is his stupidity. You can't blame them when tax has already been paid on the wealth they've accumulated.
Couple that with making it more expensive to hire employees which will push up prices as well as unemployment, you really couldn't get a more morose leader than Starmer.
We had public ownership but it was ruined by soviet backed left wing unions filled with people like yourself so don't give me that. That is the reason public utilities were sold off in the first place..to get them out of the hands of the union nutters.

There's plenty of opportunities via education if people want to take advantage.
Anyway I'll take it you've never built a business...only people with a PAYE background could think like you do!

 

[ey_tony]

no he didnt

Starmer made 10 pledges as part of his leadership campaign and all it said in pledge no 2 no social justice was

"Support the abolition of tuition fees and invest in lifelong learning."

Its an aspiration, nothing else and it was before the economic damage of covid and costof living crisis

Apparently everything is aspirational with Starmer...I suppose identifying as a worker is aspirational too?

 

[JSW]

Anyway I'll take it you've never built a business

Just out of interest, where is this business of yours? Website? You seem very proud of it!

 

[RobinBHM]

No we’re talking about Starmer being a rotten liar. I’ve shown you evidence, you denied it’s viability (i think that was option 3).

Here have some more

the thread is called "Trumps top team"

why are you so scared about discussing Trumps impending tariff war

Delaney said: "Trump’s view on the economy...........is a better direction for the US


Shall we all presume that you no longer agree with that position?

come on, do you think tariff increases will be good for America or not?

 

[sploo]

Segueing from some of our posters who love saying stuff because they believe it (rather than it having any basis in fact)... to the next POTUS... who loves saying stuff because he believes it (rather than it having any basis in fact)... here's a good piece on Trump's proposed tariffs:

 

[RobinBHM]

Increase the subsidy of childcare???? For goodness sake next we'll be paying chavs to have kids. There's far too much by way of subsidies for parents. I don't know how they would have managed when I was young and breeding with a WIFE!

you lived in a period when wealth inequality was lower Tony

thank you for proving my point

and by the way it is not simply chavs putting off having children.

Couples put off starting a family because they can’t afford homes​

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lon...-because-they-can-t-afford-homes-8216110.html

There's far too much by way of subsidies for parents

Tony this is yet another of your uninformed opinions not backed up with facts


Tony may I ask are any of your opinions based on fact?


by the way, subsidised childcare can actively help the economy, here is research and policies in Canada

https://hechingerreport.org/what-america-can-learn-from-canadas-new-10-a-day-child-care-system/


one day Tony you might learn something.............that would be good for you eh

 

[Chris152]

Segueing from some of our posters who love saying stuff because they believe it (rather than it having any basis in fact)... to the next POTUS... who loves saying stuff because he believes it (rather than it having any basis in fact)... here's a good piece on Trump's proposed tariffs:

It's a pity that can't be reduced to a three or four word summary for trump supporters. Or, even better, a four letter acronym.

 

[sploo]

It's a pity that can't be reduced to a three or four word summary for trump supporters. Or, even better, a four letter acronym.

Tariffs Will Aggravate Trumpers?

China's Unharmed Now Tariffed?

Commerce Overtly Crippled Knowingly?

 

[Delaney]

the thread is called "Trumps top team"

why are you so scared about discussing Trumps impending tariff war

Delaney said: "Trump’s view on the economy...........is a better direction for the US


Shall we all presume that you no longer agree with that position?

come on, do you think tariff increases will be good for America or not?

Have you taken two different sentences and attempted to connect them using ………..?

 

[RobinBHM]

Have you taken two different sentences and attempted to connect them using ………..?

I just removed the non applicable part

Here is your post, so I would appreciate your answer as to why your felt qualified to make a judgement before the election but not after

You keep avoiding responding to whether you consider Trumps tariff policy to be positive or not. Why?

 

[ey_tony]

you lived in a period when wealth inequality was lower Tony

thank you for proving my point

and by the way it is not simply chavs putting off having children.

Couples put off starting a family because they can’t afford homes​

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lon...-because-they-can-t-afford-homes-8216110.html



Tony this is yet another of your uninformed opinions not backed up with facts


Tony may I ask are any of your opinions based on fact?


by the way, subsidised childcare can actively help the economy, here is research and policies in Canada

https://hechingerreport.org/what-america-can-learn-from-canadas-new-10-a-day-child-care-system/


one day Tony you might learn something.............that would be good for you eh

Robin you do talk some unadulterated left wing bo**ox! Wealth inequality has always existed and always will. Blaming lack of success on wealth inequality is just an excuse for justifying failure to achieve.
We have a jolly good education system but too many people believe that education ends when they leave school and then they wonder why they get left behind in the jobs markets etc.
OK now tell everyone how many businesses you've actually run successfully which supports your strong opinions. I reckon you've never run one or it was unsuccessful.

 

[RobinBHM]

Wealth inequality has always existed and always will

That’s not relevant.

UK is Wealth inequality is much much higher now
UK has lower living standards than other similar countries and better public services which have lower levels of wealth inequality .

That shows UK wealth inequality is a problem

Blaming lack of success on wealth inequality is just an excuse for justifying failure to achieve

Tony please can you explain why you are blaming people for the following:

A) other countries have higher living stds and lower wealth inequality

B) the property price to income ratio has significantly increased so people can’t afford to buy a house these days

C) wages have stagnated since 2010

Tony, why don’t you try doing some research yourself….surely you can Google wealth inequality U.K. and see the evidence for yourself…….I wonder if you are scared of facts, you certainly go out of your way to avoid them

 

[TRITON]

Nick Clegg and his Lib Dems was the party for doing away with tuition fees...they didn't have a straight win so couldn't as it was a coalition so that went out of the window but I think him and his party were badly treated by the public and I've never been a Lib-Dem fan.
Starmer made a big deal of mentioning getting rid of tuition fees.. I suspect a lot people voted for Labour because of that promise and why there are over two million who've signed the petition to have another election.

Tell me the promises he made before the election that he's stuck to!

Im sorry Tony old chap, but I'm still not hearing all these lies you keep referring to.
You've used some pretty strong language but when pressed you seem to be experiencing a bit of difficulty supplying the actual points beyond whataboutery and strawmen.

 

[ey_tony]

Im sorry Tony old chap, but I'm still not hearing all these lies you keep referring to.
You've used some pretty strong language but when pressed you seem to be experiencing a bit of difficulty supplying the actual points beyond whataboutery and strawmen.

Here you...liar, liar Starmer's pants on fire! He's got more faces than the proverbial town hall clock.


Now that you've thrown in your phrases let's see where we're at. The only thing that Starmer knows about economics is being economical with the truth! He's an expert at that. Being economic with the truth is often referred to as someone very shifty and that about neatly sums up good old KS.
He's a political snake-oil salesman that no one should ever trust.

I realise that being a left wing fan boi of Starmer you won't say a bad word about him or his disingenuous behaviour but irrespective of what you may think, getting on for three million ordinary members of the public so far disagree with you and believe he lied to them and they've signed the petition for a rerun of the election and I can see that number growing until his position becomes untenable.
He groomed and misled them and now they are beginning to see truth.

 

[TRITON]

Again, what has this got to do with the current government, and the current legislation around the Labour manifesto ?

I'm not a labour supporter, so you can drop the insults and please for about the 4rth time answer the question you seem to be going to great lengths to avoid answering.

I'm sorry Tony, but it is beginning to look like you are unable to back up your accusations with actual facts.

 

[RobinBHM]

align the US with other authoritarian states

Traditionally we had America and Europe aligned geopolitically against Asia and Russia on the opposing side.

Now we have the balance of power shifting, the BRICS nations
becoming the most powerful economies. And Russia / NK / Iran is aligning with them.

Weirdly Trump is aligning USA with Russia and its allies Iran and NK but simultaneously Trump is creating an economic war against against China and Europe


I wonder how it’s all going to pan out

 

[Dave Moore]

Whats done is done. Trump has been elected, and chances are his working class supporters will be soon finding out how interested he really is in the working class

So leave is a year or two then re-interview them and listen out for 'This is not what we voted for'

Its the same story with the brexiteers. A year down the line even the stanchest voter has discovered" This isnt the brexit we voted for"

Because Trump doesnt care about the working class, his predicted trade war will hurt them the most.
But like everything you get what you pay for.

It’s not what we voted for simply because the remoaners won’t implement it properly. I’m sick of all the woke on here who still listen to the lying BBC and then link their crap saying it’s fact. Is this a woodworking workshop or a political claptrap forum now?
Regards,
A pissed off woodworker.

 

[Dave Moore]

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You lot are like the bores you get in the pub.
Y'know, the one everybody tries to move away from...