New workshop for 2020

[Sheptonphil]

When you say the same, you nailed two bits together at 90 degrees, cut to fit, then planed down?

I think I'm going to need more 5x1 :lol:

Yes, joined first then made to fit.

Looking great with the lights, though only 2 sockets on the wall?

those two are where I was fishing for the floor cables. I’ve one in the corner near front door, and those two, the position of those were dictated by the floor cables. By the weekend, there will be at least seven doubles along there, ten doubles on the opposite wall and four doubles each end. The dirty room will have six doubles. The left wall will have an area of (Don’t look Mike) French Cleats. Right hand will be workstations and mobile tools. (Or more precisely tools made mobile with wheeled bases). Layout is still in development.

 

[DBT85]

Ahh that sounds better.

Apart from the cleats.

(I have a tiny cleat section in W1 and I like it... shhhh)

 

[Sheptonphil]

(I have a tiny cleat section in W1 and I like it... shhhh)

Don’t expect any more help from mike admitting that, one of his pet hates.

I’m planning on 4-5metres of them a metre high. :roll:

More electrics today, a fishing expedition for the two return wires from the floor sockets, Feed wires were found yesterday, both of the returns were directly behind the 32mm exploratory holes which were made in the centre point of the intended socket location. Bingo, ring circuit now goes under the floor and back twice. In the dirty room, cables were run in the wall to be able to go under the worktop by the sink, where the compressor will live in a sound reducing enclosure. The ring cable was fed in to the first socket of six for the room and out from the last, back in to the workshop. The ones in between will be fitted in between tomorrow.

Lunchtime, and the four extra LED panels arrive, so I abandoned the ring and removed the yellowish batten fitting in the dirty room and replaced it with two panels. 8) 8) 8) 8) now, that’s white. Final two panels were added to the workshop, where the wires were waiting already, it only took 10 minutes each.

Popping the last screw in the light surround and DPD arrive with the curtain heater, so that took precedent over more sockets. The fused outlet was installed ready, sparks wants this on a dedicated radial circuit, so it was a case of fixing heater, plugging it in to test, before cutting the plug off and wiring into the fused outlet. I now have the cooling fan, and oscillating twin heat unit finished.

Architrave and skirting board is now at the timber yard awaiting collection, so will have that to do over the weekend as well as finishing ring circuit, radial for the CNC and network sockets.

 

[MikeG.]

Don’t expect any more help from mike admitting that, one of his pet hates.........

:lol: :lol: Not hates. It's the fashion-ness of them which I dislike. Anyway, I'll talk you guys through to the end of your buildings, but what you then do inside them is entirely up to you. I saw carpet and curtains in one of "my" sheds, once. I was tempted to send Carruthers around, but it was in Australia, so what can you expect? :lol:

 

[Sheptonphil]

Don’t expect any more help from mike admitting that, one of his pet hates.........

:lol: :lol: Not hates. It's the fashion-ness of them which I dislike. Anyway, I'll talk you guys through to the end of your buildings, but what you then do inside them is entirely up to you. I saw carpet and curtains in one of "my" sheds, once. I was tempted to send Carruthers around, but it was in Australia, so what can you expect? :lol:

Well, taking your advice on construction has paid massive dividends. I do thank you for that.

Two days of torrential rain, thunder storms and lightning and not a dribble inside. whilst in the loft to wire the dirty room panels I had a really good look all round the edges, from eaves to ridge. Doesn't feel damp even, unlike my last workshop, that whilst was watertight, always felt damp, especially during rain or winter. There was no ventilation gap between studs and cladding (or membrane come to that). I’m happy. Was at a Yandles open day when the Triton demonstration went flat when comments about Australians was taken personally by an audience member (an Australian). No sense of humour. :wink:

 

[MikeG.]

I'm allowed to take the mickey out of Aussies.....I lived there 10 years, and I've got a piece of paper somewhere which says I'm a joint Aussie/ UK citizen. My dad did that without asking me. They have a great sense of humour generally, BTW, just not quite the same as ours.

 

[Sheptonphil]

Timber collected today for architraves, have left skirting board on the rack at the timber yard, won’t be fitted till the wall benches are made and will be in the way till then.

Loft ladder arrived, as did the sink, so ladder fitted and loft hatch and surround secured in place.

Bowls club has reopened, so I was dragged off site for some ‘quality time together’, evidently there IS more to life than building my workshop :shock:

Hoping to crack on with electrics Sunday, but I think there are other plans afoot.
We’ll see.

 

[Sheptonphil]

Not a great deal achieved today, I had the sparks round, saw my first fix so far, and advised on next stage of cabling, looked at my secondary meter box installation, happy with everything, and left. I’ll call him back in when the cabling is finished and he can do the connections and testing. :idea:

It does mean though I can close off the cladding at the front and back. I didn’t want to box in the feed cables before I knew he was happy they were routed in the right place.

All kicks off again Monday with a vengeance.

 

[Sheptonphil]

Cracking day, dry and warm, perfect for the work in hand

After yesterday’s visit from my electrician, I was able to do final route for the feed cable to the consumer unit.

Once this was in place in the ventilation gap of the cladding I was also able to send a cable down to the site of the future summerhouse and bring that in to the CU. That will be ready, but not connected yet. I could then place the CU on the wall, mark where the trunking was to be accessed, drill the holes, fix it and run the circuits in. One more radial and the rest of the sockets to place before sparks comes back to do some real work.

With the cables finished outside I set to trimming out the front battens and start the cladding. Managed over half the front, so that should get finished tomorrow, and maybe the back as well. Still not sure I’ve got enough boards. :?

 

[DBT85]

How have you found that 40mm trunking to work with? Screwfix or tlc?

 

[Sheptonphil]

How have you found that 40mm trunking to work with? Screwfix or tlc?

The trunking is giving me options to go horizontally between sockets on walls or vertically, across the down to the next one depending on wall usage. I really like it. Using a stepped drill, the 20mm holes are easy to make cleanly in the right place and a perfect size. I wouldn’t put it in a house, but here it is perfect, and for alterations or additions in the future it will be really easy to add or move circuits.

I got it from Electricaldirect, £5.27 for a 3m length. It’s a decent quality trunking. I used ten lengths. The conduit and fittings I get from Screwfix.

 

[Sheptonphil]

Front cladding finished and one of the four sections at the rear, the largest one, fitted to eaves height. Cutting the board above the door and the two which marry in to the eaves took nigh on forty five minutes each. :shock: The boards worked out well, with no tiny bits to fill in at the top. Another day at the back should knock a big hole in this job.

 

[Blackswanwood]

You have made a cracking job of this - it looks great and has been really interesting to follow.

 

[Sheptonphil]

You have made a cracking job of this - it looks great and has been really interesting to follow.

Thanks, that’s appreciated. This is probably different to many workshop builds as it had to conform to several conditions and regulations for material choice, and is attached to the house, instead of stand alone at the bottom of the garden.

It’s certainly been a learning curve, as there was going to be various trades in along the way, which never happened. I’ve probably saved several thousand and learned new skills along the way.

I can see the light now, when I thought that before, someone blew the candle out!

The cladding should be finished up Wednesday if I have enough on site, then it’s all about the internals, finishing the electrical circuits so my sparks can test everything I’ve done, and make connections both ends, meter box and workshop. Then get the tools in to make the shelving, workbenches, sink unit, cleat wall, drawers and Compressor store. My first project though will be to make a stable door for the front.

 

[DBT85]

The fun thing is that the building is finished in short order but the workshop project never really ends. You'll always be adding stuff or changing things.

I don't know about you Phil but mine feels massive compared to where I've been making mess for the last 18 months!

 

[Sheptonphil]

The fun thing is that the building is finished in short order but the workshop project never really ends. You'll always be adding stuff or changing things.

I don't know about you Phil but mine feels massive compared to where I've been making mess for the last 18 months!

I think the inside will probably take longer to evolve than the building took to make. I’ve so many things I want to put in place that all need custom making, I don’t think there will be time this year to do any hobby making. :wink:

Size wise I was used to a 18sqm vaulted workshop, which was freezing in winter (Except the high vaulted ceiling), felt damp although it didn’t leak, and too hot in summer. Virtually no insulation and the construction didn’t lend itself to adding any. Electric was on the limit, I had to make sure I didn’t turn too many high power machines on at once or had to turn them on in a particular order so the electric didn’t trip down at the house. This is why I put the ceiling in, I didn’t store wood in the rafters when I could so no open eaves storage for me to clutter the place up with. I’m having a warm workshop, easily heated, which will be 50%+ larger than before.

It will take several months to fit it out though. Looking forward to that bit as well.

 

[Sheptonphil]

This cladding lark is going slower than anticipated

First this was to fit all the edge and bottom trims in place to carry the board ends. Fiddly, but does make for a decent finish. I managed two of the four wall sections, the sloping section was just so time consuming to mark, cut and fix, the small wall was just plain sailing by comparison. Have worked out the lengths to cut for the last wall, I’m two boards short (hammer) (hammer) (hammer)
Not sure if I can get them from Weston Super Mare, that’s 40 minutes away, else it’s a 90 minute trip to Swindon. Delivery is not an option at £135 flat rate. :shock:

 

[MikeG.]

.........Delivery is not an option at £135 flat rate........

:shock: :shock: :shock: Are they hiring a helicopter to deliver it? :shock:

 

[DBT85]

It's mad what some places charge.

roofing supermarket or whatever it is want 75+VAT for basically any tile order. It could be 1 tile.

Sorry you're short Phil, at least its still water proof!

 

[Sheptonphil]

.........Delivery is not an option at £135 flat rate........

:shock: :shock: :shock: Are they hiring a helicopter to deliver it? :shock:

They do all deliveries via pallet line and make no discrimination whether it’s a lorry load or a tin of edge paint.

It's mad what some places charge.

roofing supermarket or whatever it is want 75+VAT for basically any tile order. It could be 1 tile.

Sorry you're short Phil, at least its still water proof!

Shouldn’t be a problem, even if it’s a trip out. Will know in the morning if WSM have any as I’m going there next week anyway.

I knew the 100 board order was tight, but it really is impossible to get the quantities spot on without having lots going to waste.

Worse things happen at sea, we were always told.