Might buy a (nearly) new car...

[CNC Paul]

I need to replace SWIMBO's car that was writen off, I have rang 2 garages in the last few days about buying a car... both sales departments could not come to the phone or bothered to ring me back.... I expect they are tooooo busy dealing with all the cars flying out of the showroom.
:roll:

 

[Vormulac]

Oh yeah the 140bhp engine is a peugeot engine.

I can't begin to tell you how strongly I doubt that, given that Ford make their own 2.0l TDCi engine. Ford do supply Peugeot (amongst others) with diesel engines, especially for van use, so that might be what you're thinking of?

You're right about them going like rockets, when we worked on the prototypes they didn't have to conform to any noise or emission regulations as they weren't production vehicles and weren't intended for road use (although most of the time they were pretty much 99% identical to the road car) so we could use them de-restricted on the banked test track at Dunton - man those things were powerful before they had their teeth pulled to meet regulations!

 

[9fingers]

AFAIK the diesels used in modern Ford are a joint development between Peugeot and Ford.
Badged has HDi by Peugeot and Duratorq by Ford.
Mine is a ford 2 litre 130bhp unit and with care will turn in 60mpg but 45 in normal mixed driving.

Bob

 

[mailee]

...you want to see how thirsty a 2.5L diesel Landy is :shock: that's why I hate filling stations :evil: - Rob

I drive a 3.0L Subaru - believe me Rob, there are few who wince quite as hard when pulling into a petrol station as me! :lol:

Hmm, think I can beat that mine uses fuel like a rocket, it's a Volvo T5 230BHP! Still prefer the old 740 Estate I used to have much bigger and cheaper to run.

 

[andycktm]

Strange because citroen use the same engines as peugeot!

 

[matt]

Matt, hold fire before purchase of a new car.

New car around £1300.

You could easily have anew one every year.

Honest True.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7911749.stm

Arghhhhhhhhhhh... my eyes.... That is ugly. (But thanks for the handy tip though...)

 

[9fingers]

Why strange?

Maybe i should have written Ford and PSA jointly developed the engine

PSA vehicles call it HDi, Ford call it Duratorq.

Bob

 

[Jake]

The PSA common-rail diesel was ground-breaking IIRC. So Ford probably paid wodges to get in on the act.

 

[andycktm]

A couple of years ago we were going to buy a focus at a peugeot garage!
The wife wanted to try a 307 so we had a go in both and the ford 1.6td was like driving a transit van,
the peugeot 1.6 td reminded me of the xr2i i used to have!

 

[Jenx]

The PSA common-rail diesel was ground-breaking IIRC. So Ford probably paid wodges to get in on the act.

From what I remember, thats spot-on Jake ...
Must have been about early/mid 90's- ish or thereabouts... I seem to remember getting a 406 with this 'new and groundbreaking' diesel commonrail engine around that time.
And hearing that ford were to be using the same engine.

That rings a lot of bells.

 

[Vormulac]

Hmm, think I can beat that mine uses fuel like a rocket, it's a Volvo T5 230BHP! Still prefer the old 740 Estate I used to have much bigger and cheaper to run.

Only 230bhp? A nice economical runaround then ;D

ETA:

The PSA common-rail diesel was ground-breaking IIRC. So Ford probably paid wodges to get in on the act.

I would suggest that perhaps that's a little unfair to the Ford engineers involved in the design and development work of the common rail engine, it does rather suggest Ford just bought the engine.

 

[Jake]

The PSA common-rail diesel was ground-breaking IIRC. So Ford probably paid wodges to get in on the act.

I would suggest that perhaps that's a little unfair to the Ford engineers involved in the design and development work of the common rail engine, it does rather suggest Ford just bought the engine.

I'm sure the JV developed new engines, but on the back of the Peugeot design which had been around for many years, so I don't think I'm being that unfair.

 

[mailee]

I suppose Ford had to do something for their deisel engines though as the early ones were a bit 'agricultural'. On the Sierra range the deisel engines used to shake themselves to pieces, ok for a Transit but not too good for a car. I have to admit that the new Ford deisels are a good engine indeed.