Machine brands pecking order

[angelboy]

What are your thoughts and opinions on certain popular brands and where do you see them if you could them in some sort of pecking order.

I'm suppose I'm talking about the light trade/trade/industrial uses (if you follow the Axminster guides!) not the really big stuff.

I'd assume names like Wadkin and Sedgewick would be at the top of the list but what about:

(in no order)
Fox

Scheppach

Axminster

Jet

Kity

Charnwood

Electric Beckum

Metabo

Startrite


I'm sure there's plenty I've missed (Deft for example) so please feel free to add them.

 

[big soft moose]

What are your thoughts and opinions on certain popular brands and where do you see them if you could them in some sort of pecking order.

I'm suppose I'm talking about the light trade/trade/industrial uses (if you follow the Axminster guides!) not the really big stuff.

I'd assume names like Wadkin and Sedgewick would be at the top of the list but what about:

(in no order)
Fox

Scheppach

Axminster

Jet

Kity

Charnwood

Electric Beckum

Metabo

Startrite


I'm sure there's plenty I've missed (Deft for example) so please feel free to add them.

I'd put Startrite (and Multico) at the top with sedgewick and wadkin

Then Kity (the older kit made in france not the newer chinese **** ) anmd Jet

Then the others you list which IME are much of a muchness (and in some cases are identical exept for the badge

(by the way metabo and electra beckum are essentially the same as the former took over the latter)

 

[Doctor]

sealey at the bottom

 

[big soft moose]

sealey at the bottom

Nah, performance power and champion at the bottom

Sealey and clarke only just above

 

[jeffinfrance]

where would felder fit in there?

 

[mailee]

sealey at the bottom

Nah, performance power and champion at the bottom

Sealey and clarke only just above

What about Worx and Erbauer? :lol:

 

[Chems]

SIP

 

[Lons]

why is my robland pt not in there ?

 

[OPJ]

While it's obvious where Wadkin and Sedgwick should go, followed by Startrite; the rest is a bit tricky, seeing as how most of those names offer ranges to suit various levels and budgets...

For example: Jet stuff is generally well regarded around here. But, at the same time, they do selection of "Hobby"-rated tools, and then some in between.

One may be tempted to elevate Scheppach and Metabo above the rest, simply because their kit is (I believe) still assembled in Europe - though, in the case of Scheppach at least; they have begun sourcing some parts in from the Far East...

If if it's for your own personal use, I don't think you could go far wrong with any of those brands. It's only really when you're looking to running them full-time; ten-hours a day and pushing them towards their maximum capacities that you'd really want to consider the heavy, old, cast iron stuff.

 

[angelboy]

Forgot Record Power

 

[Alf]

Forgot Record Power

How wise. :wink:

 

[gardenshed]

Forgot Record Power

Next to last please

 

[big soft moose]

sealey at the bottom

Nah, performance power and champion at the bottom

Sealey and clarke only just above

What about Worx and Erbauer? :lol:

actually some erbauer kit isnt bad - we've got an erbauer "kango" type hammer at work and it gets a serious twatting on a regular basis and its still going fine after 3 years.

given that it was about a fifth of the price of the average kango - and our last actual kango was about ten when it died, the erbauer clone has already proved value for money.

I think it depends what it is - tablesaws, planer thicknessers, and such - i agree the cheap brands are crap - but if you want a cordless drill to go out on site and get wet and dropped off ladders etc I'd rather take a 20 quid worx than a 200 quid festool

 

[big soft moose]

why is my robland pt not in there ?

cos he said light trade - robland is seriously industrial

Incidentally someone got a major deal on a robland tablesaw on ebay last night - went for a tad over 800 notes - I'd sniped at 650

 

[angelboy]

Yes I'm talking about a step above hobby machines but good home or single user trade stuff.

 

[angelboy]

So is this about right then.....



Wadkin + Sedgewick

Startrite

Kity

Jet

Scheppach

Elektra Beckum/Metabo

SIP

Fox

Axminster

Charnwood

Record Power

sealey + clarke

performance power + champion

 

[big soft moose]

Wadkin + Sedgewick + Harrison/union

Startrite + Multico + (other old brands like whitehead)+Hegner+Vimarc+Wivamac

Kity (french made) + Jet

Scheppach + Elektra Beckum/Metabo + Dewalt + Makita + Mafell + EZ + Bosch (blue) + Trend

SIP + Axminster + Kity (chinese made)

Charnwood

Record Power + Bosch (green) + Site (actually made by makita)

sealey + clarke +draper

Erbauer + worX

performance power + champion + other shed brands

but it aint that simple - as it varies from machine to machine - for example record make some nice lathes, while i wouldnt give a SIP lathe house room

 

[woodbloke]

While it's obvious where Wadkin and Sedgwick should go, followed by Startrite; the rest is a bit tricky, seeing as how most of those names offer ranges to suit various levels and budgets...

For example: Jet stuff is generally well regarded around here. But, at the same time, they do selection of "Hobby"-rated tools, and then some in between.

One may be tempted to elevate Scheppach and Metabo above the rest, simply because their kit is (I believe) still assembled in Europe - though, in the case of Scheppach at least; they have begun sourcing some parts in from the Far East...

If if it's for your own personal use, I don't think you could go far wrong with any of those brands. It's only really when you're looking to running them full-time; ten-hours a day and pushing them towards their maximum capacities that you'd really want to consider the heavy, old, cast iron stuff.

Agreed...the paper Axminster catalogue give a useful guide into the various definitions of 'Industrial' 'Trade' etc in terms of hourly daily usage. The new Charnwood tablesaur (W650) is definitely better than their normal 'iffyish' stuff - Rob