I wonder?

[Jacob]

Most prejudice is borne out of fear. We are fed a diet of anti Muslim propaganda in the media. We are told we should fear the Muslim community when in fact what we should fear is a small radicalised minority.

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Mick

Even that fear is a bit exaggerated. We had 7/7 and a few other minor incidents but nothing compared to the IRA. In America far more people are killed by gun nutters than terrorists even if you include 9/11. Not sure what the figures are but I expect it's in the 100s times more, if not 1000s

Do your research, sunshine. People killed in 9/11 - approx 3000.

People killed due to gun crime - approx 30,000

That is 10 times. Not 100. Not 1000's.

Depends on the period you take:
Terrorist deaths in America, say 2000 to 2015 about 3000.
Gun related deaths in the same 15 years about 450,000

Compare this with expenditure;
on reducing gun deaths; about zero
on "fighting terrrorism"; billions of dollars and many American lives.

Seems to lack a sense of priority, they should be doing something about the terror within!

To look at 9/11 another way - the death total was about the same as the gun-related death total in a typical American 4/5 week period - which many Americans see as quite acceptable. Bias?

 

[RogerS]

Even that fear is a bit exaggerated. We had 7/7 and a few other minor incidents but nothing compared to the IRA. In America far more people are killed by gun nutters than terrorists even if you include 9/11. Not sure what the figures are but I expect it's in the 100s times more, if not 1000s

Do your research, sunshine. People killed in 9/11 - approx 3000.

People killed due to gun crime - approx 30,000

That is 10 times. Not 100. Not 1000's.

Depends on the period you take:
Terrorist deaths in America, say 2000 to 2015 about 3000.
Gun related deaths in the same 15 years about 450,000

Compare this with expenditure;
on reducing gun deaths; about zero
on "fighting terrrorism"; billions of dollars and many American lives.

Seems to lack a sense of priority!

Off you go again. You make an ill-considered off-the-cuff statement as if it is cast in tablets of stone.

Then when challenged and proved that you are shooting from the hip (as usual) come along with some red herring to change the subject rather than admitting, and having the guts to admit, that you were wrong in the first place.

Post what you like in response. I'll not bite.

 

[RobinBHM]

Although 20,000 of those were suicide.

I thought it rather nice that Nadiya won this years bakeoff, a very English programme won by an English person, who happens to be Muslim.

All totally off topic of course!

 

[Jacob]

... You make an ill-considered off-the-cuff statement as if it is cast in tablets of stone.

The figures are cast in Wikipaedia

If you were to compare/contrast in any period before 9/11 you would find several 1000 gun deaths per terrorist attack* death - which for many years would be zero.
9/11 was a big one off.

* on american soil that is. Not sure how you'd classify the Oklahoma bombing - more of a gun-nutter survivalist own-goal than a terrorist attack perhaps.

 

[Bm101]

I work with people from all over the world every day. Really. Last Thursday I met two Romanian builders. Very little English on their side, No Romanian on mine. one older fella who signalled his good intent by smiles and nods. One younger fella who spoke some very basic English. I was finishing off my work and we got to that men working having a chat moment.
Him: nice job?
Me: not bad mate
Him: from here?
Me: yeehhhh a bit. (details)
Me: so where are you boys from?
Him: Romania but not bad people. Working men, Want to work!

What have we become where someone explains where he's from and justifies it with ' but not like the newspapers say I am'
I wasn't gonna post in this thread initially tbh. How is it a matter of surprise that some black people are ignorant? How is it a matter of surprise that wherever you go in life you meet good and bad? How is it a matter of surprise that you should treat people in the manner they treat you?

How is it a matter of surprise that some people are complete a*seholes no matter the coincidence of their birth and some people aren't.

It's not rocket science.
We're people aren't we? lets treat each other like it.

 

[Jacob]

... You make an ill-considered off-the-cuff statement as if it is cast in tablets of stone.

The figures are cast in Wikipaedia

If you were to compare/contrast in any period before 9/11 you would find several 1000 gun deaths per terrorist attack* death - which for many years would be zero.
9/11 was a big one off.

* on american soil that is. Not sure how you'd classify the Oklahoma bombing - more of a gun-nutter survivalist own-goal than a terrorist attack perhaps.

Just an idle thought after half a bot of wine:
9/11 took a great deal of planning, skill, organisation, cost, and ultimately self sacrifice.
With hindsight wouldn't al qaeda have done better to simply support the NRA and similar organisations, which would encourage americans to shoot each other rather than al qaeda having to do anything to help them into oblivion?
Which begs the question - could the NRA actually be an al qaeda funded terrorist organisation which cleverly kills 30000 yanks per year without anybody objecting?
Just an idle thought.

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

Using that logic McDonalds must be terrorist funded!! How many fattys die each year??

 

[Water-Mark]

Although 20,000 of those were suicide.

I thought it rather nice that Nadiya won this years bakeoff, a very English programme won by an English person, who happens to be Muslim.

All totally off topic of course!

Lemon drizzle transends all known races and religions.

 

[RobinBHM]

Well lemon drizzle gets my vote

 

[artie]

Lies, Damn lies and statistics.


Take your pick

 

[BearTricks]

I don't think that anyone claims that non-whites can't be guilty of racism.

Coverage of racism in the media, and general every day racism in society, seems to be majority white-on-whoever racism, so maybe it seems as if people think that racism between other races or towards whites isn't a problem worth discussing.

There is no evidence that non-white racism doesn't exist; that argument is flimsy even for the white racists who often use it to justify their own views.

 

[Max Power]

Coverage of racism in the media, and general every day racism in society, seems to be majority white-on-whoever racism, so maybe it seems as if people think that racism between other races or towards whites isn't a problem worth discussing.

Wouldn't that be because whites are currently still the majority , hence are more likely to be the main instigators of anything ?