I don't believe it!!!

[GregW]

You’re not very friendly are you dear? I was asking a polite question.
I haven’t mentioned anything about data leaks etc. I was talking about misinformation (esp around vaccines of which many of those books are and as I said have led to unnecessary deaths due to parents not letting their kids have MMR jabs because Andrew Wakefield suggested it causes autism -spoiler alert, it doesn’t. New vaccine misinformation is causing deaths through Covid 19 (which, is one of many coronaviruses as is the common cold which may make your patent link a little more explainable and a little less alarming -I’m guessing the reason for sharing it is something around ‘Covid was patented by big pharma before 2019’ or similar.

As to government control, the people im taking advice from are friends who specialise in these areas and certainly aren’t being paid or blocked by govt or anyone else.

Funny that you seem to be anti listening to experts in a specific field but then use your degree as a way of proving your own knowledge. Funny how contradictory we all are innit?

It’s not being polite. I’m autistic

Believe what do you want. It not change facts, that the same like flu jabs for elderly and sick, it’s going to lead to mass extinction of people who are dependable on that jabs, as soon as previously happened with “missed pathogens in this season flu jabs” “didn’t predict visitation of virus” and thousands died 2008. Did anyone even rise an eye braw? No, besides this individual’s families.

I’m not talking about conspiracies, but FACTS.
And facts are - you start apply humanity and human science to nature, it’s going to be deadly for everyone when nature prevail. And it did again and again, well before mammals DNA was programmed. Should I pointed out “70 ice age prevention project to cut ozone, leading to climate change? Humans scientists, especially government paid, think they are so great in their work they believe in their results missing facts - we all be extinct, nature will stay and go on, turning our civilisation into dust.

Misinformation? Did you read it? Did you actually read it?
His work is based on clinical trials far extending trials on SARS/MARS ever it’s like saying “there is no fish in water, only because they not in tab water” MMR was done in several jabs - no autistic symptoms, recently MMR one shot on newborns - autism plague. Read his research first

good advice, before you label anything or anyone, first READ AND RESEARCH material you are based your opinion. So read all his research, than label.

PS. Still no comments about COV patent from 2017 in USA, which was further developed in Wuhan - FACTS. Everyone got self researched to their silence?

 

[RobinBHM]

Here is US COV patent 2017 for again so you not able to dismiss it

COVID PATENT US20170216427A1 - Coronavirus - Google Patents

that was a conspiracy doing the rounds earlier in the year.

it has nothing to do with covid

 

[GregW]

that was a conspiracy doing the rounds earlier in the year.

it has nothing to do with covid

Nope. It was a conspiracy in times of SARS/MARS 2015, now it is a fact
Did you even read it?

Believe what you want…

 

[RobinBHM]

PS. Still no comments about COV patent from 2017 in USA, which was further developed in Wuhan - FACTS. Everyone got self researched to their silence?

1)its not a patent: the terms “priority date” and “application date” have been conflated

2) coronavirus is not SARS-CoV-2

 

[RobinBHM]

Nope. It was a conspiracy in times of SARS/MARS 2015, now it is a fact
Did you even read it?

Believe what you want…

youve linked to an application date for something to do with coronavirus

thats not a conspiracy.

in 2021, the conspiracy that a patent for covid was created in 2015

 

[GregW]

Read A and B extensions, and “variants” all on the same patent

 

[RobinBHM]

autism plague

untrue

 

[GregW]

youve linked to an application date for something to do with coronavirus

thats not a conspiracy.

in 2021, the conspiracy that a patent for covid was created in 2015

Read the patent

 

[RobinBHM]

Read A and B extensions, and “variants” all on the same patent

its not a patent

a variant of coronavirus is not covid

 

[J-G]

@RobinBHM
I suspect that you are wasting your breath (typing?) by replying to GregW. I find ALL his posts very difficult to even read never mind actually understand. For some long while I had assumed that he must be using English as a second language with little real knowledge of its complex nature but if it is simply a case of Autism then there maybe a case for some sympathy but trying to argue a point is unlikely to lead to any sensible conclusion.

 

[GregW]

its not a patent

Show me numbers please.

a variant of coronavirus is not covid

untrue

The same as H.IV is not AIDS
It’s simple. Read some more.

PS. One sentence trolling ? Really?

 

[RobinBHM]

Read the patent

I did, it was only an application in 2015, granted in 2018

it has nothing to do with covid, if you think it does please provide the evidence -with a quote and link

 

[RobinBHM]

@RobinBHM
I suspect that you are wasting your breath (typing?) by replying to GregW. I find ALL his posts very difficult to even read never mind actually understand. For some long while I had assumed that he must be using English as a second language with little real knowledge of its complex nature but if it is simply a case of Autism then there maybe a case for some sympathy but trying to argue a point is unlikely to lead to any sensible conclusion.

thank you, yes I was reaching that conslusion.

conspiracy theories are dangerous to those on a spectrum.

 

[RobinBHM]

The same as H.IV is not AIDS
It’s simple. Read some more.

I am sorry but that is incorrrect, here is a more detailed explanation:

coronavirus is a family.
4 coronaviruses are responsible for the common cold.
coronavirus is not the same as covid.



AIDS is the same as HIV, its sometimes known as stage 3 HIV
its the same virus

 

[Trainee neophyte]

AIDS is the same as HIV, its sometimes known as stage 3 HIV
its the same virus

At the risk of devolving into pedantry, that may not quite be the case: HIV is the name of a virus, but AIDS is the name of a disease, which happens to be caused by the HIV virus. Note that the disease was "discovered" before the virus which caused it was identified.

https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/about-hiv-and-aids/what-are-hiv-and-aids

HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) is a virus that attacks cells that help the body fight infection, making a person more vulnerable to other infections and diseases. It is spread by contact with certain bodily fluids of a person with HIV, most commonly during unprotected sex (sex without a condom or HIV medicine to prevent or treat HIV), or through sharing injection drug equipment.​

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If left untreated, HIV can lead to the disease AIDS (acquired immunodeficiency syndrome).​

 

[Filament]

Again I’m a little unclear about all your points but:
Flu jabs aren’t always on the money, it’s a best guess each year shuck strain will be dominant that year. Do they save lots of lives? Damn right.

Autism is not caused by MMR. You are making a very common error of seeing correlation as causation. All research into it has shown it doesn’t and the initial piece done by Andrew Wakefield which created the original scare was complete nonsense and could not be reproduced by anyone else. (The National Autistic Society see no link)
This has caused outbreaks of measles that have killed children (a disease that we had nearly eradicated up to that point)

The reason you can see a correlation between numbers is that autism was not a diagnosed condition for a long time which around a similar time as the MMR stuff was starting to be recognised a lot more widely. It’s not that there are more people with autism, it’s simply that more are diagnosed (which I would think you would see as a good thing if you have autism)

It’s like saying that Abbey Road by the Beatles causes bowel cancer (diagnoses went up from 1969 due to colonoscopes being invented). They are correlated but that’s all.

In terms of doing your own research, to be honest with this sort of thing it doesn’t work if you are looking at the raw data. You need enough understanding to know what you’re looking at (eg the ONS data needs to be filtered through people with epidemiological knowledge who can interpret it to really be meaningful).

Both More or Less on Radio 4 and the Full Fact podcast are really good ways to learn about how we all misinterpret information. Maybe have a listen.

 

[Filament]

Also, by your rationale Dettol are in on it as their label has said ‘kills human coronavirus’ for long before the current pandemic (because it kills the common cold virus)

Covid is a coronavirus but all coronaviruses are not Covid.

Perhaps your research skills need work?

 

[Phil Pascoe]

I do apologise for auto correct. Is that better?
If you still not able to understand, you should read it aloud. Should help in reading with understanding.

I read it aloud. It makes no sense to me, either.

 

[RobinBHM]

At the risk of devolving into pedantry, that may not quite be the case: HIV is the name of a virus, but AIDS is the name of a disease, which happens to be caused by the HIV virus. Note that the disease was "discovered" before the virus which caused it was identified.

https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/about-hiv-and-aids/what-are-hiv-and-aids

HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) is a virus that attacks cells that help the body fight infection, making a person more vulnerable to other infections and diseases. It is spread by contact with certain bodily fluids of a person with HIV, most commonly during unprotected sex (sex without a condom or HIV medicine to prevent or treat HIV), or through sharing injection drug equipment.​

​

If left untreated, HIV can lead to the disease AIDS (acquired immunodeficiency syndrome).​

Yes indeed, I should have made it clear.

AIDs was a huge worry back in the 80s thank goodness that didn’t turn out as bad.

 

[gcusick]

its a relevant to your lack of self education, you have been ignorantly referring to.

Is English your first language?