Guns,guns, and more Guns

[artie]

Media paint a picture which is often unrelatable, seems to be their job now to instil panic in everybody about everything.

Couldn't agree more.
My prescription for a happier live is turn off the TV and eat more greens.

 

[GregW]

ah yes the old "there's no point having gun controls as criminals ignore rules"

but the UK has tight gun controls and very low gun violence.......

You took my post wrong way.
Society is more and more ignorant by generation, and that’s only reason I would not give fork any teen on the street, as they will poke someone’s eye to get likes on TikTok….
As Anarchist, I believe it’s my responsibility to protect The Law and my personal safety, without relying on others. I’m well trained in hand2hand, and firearms. Not makes me a criminal same, I can’t see any reason why not to shoot2kill armed criminal. Whoever can’t find their place in The Law society, can jump of the cliff as far I’m concerned. BUT, everyone should be helped if they want to return to Law society, and don’t poke me to rant about “prison system” as it a joke at far as re-socialisation goes.

 

[doctor Bob]

Idiots/uneducated will abuse them selfs regardless who supply drugs.

That's quite a statement.

 

[GregW]

That's quite a statement.

Me included… but I not blame whole universe for it took things into my own hands. And here I am preaching about stupid choices

 

[doctor Bob]

Me included… but I not blame whole universe for it took things into my own hands. And here I am preaching about stupid choices

I sorted myself out as I couldn't control my intake, but I know plenty of people who abuse themselves with no consequences and have a good time. I wouldn't call them uneducated or idiots.

 

[artie]

I would bet that pretty much all of that gun crime increase is gang related and carried out with illegal weapons.

So they haven't been effectively banned then?

It has nothing to do with the historical mass shootings being discussed in this thread which were all perpetrated with legally held weapons and which led to the ban on most people keeping them.

I suppose you can make the thread about whatever you want, but it started out about police shooting escaping civilians in the USA and wandered as far off topic as antique American pocket watches.

I think you know that Artie, you just like being ornery.

If not agreeing with ill thought out posts and sound bites is ornery ...

On the subject of mass shootings in the UK There was one in 1987 and I think that resulted in the banning of most semi automatic rifles.

Another in 1996 which resulted in the pistol ban.

Both of these incidents while tragic were the only ones up to that point in the 20 century,

So around 1999 the big pistol buy back took place ruined livelihoods and ruined thousands of peoples preferred sport.
Ah well you say, if it saved one life....

In 2010 we had the Cumbria shootings.
The Cumbria shootings was a shooting spree which occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, taxi driver Derrick Bird, killed twelve people and injured eleven others before killing himself in Cumbria, England

In 2021 we had the Plymouth shooting
The Plymouth shooting occurred in the Keyham area of Plymouth, Devon, England, United Kingdom, on 12 August 2021. The gunman, 22-year-old Jake Davison, shot and killed five people and injured two others before fatally shooting himself

So there you have it Two mass shootings before the "effective bans " and two after.

 

[selectortone]

So they haven't been effectively banned then?

Illegal weapons have always been banned.

 

[artie]

Illegal weapons have always been banned.

you left out a word.

 

[Jacob]

So they haven't been effectively banned then?


I suppose you can make the thread about whatever you want, but it started out about police shooting escaping civilians in the USA and wandered as far off topic as antique American pocket watches.


If not agreeing with ill thought out posts and sound bites is ornery ...

On the subject of mass shootings in the UK There was one in 1987 and I think that resulted in the banning of most semi automatic rifles.

Another in 1996 which resulted in the pistol ban.

Both of these incidents while tragic were the only ones up to that point in the 20 century,

So around 1999 the big pistol buy back took place ruined livelihoods and ruined thousands of peoples preferred sport.
Ah well you say, if it saved one life....

In 2010 we had the Cumbria shootings.
The Cumbria shootings was a shooting spree which occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, taxi driver Derrick Bird, killed twelve people and injured eleven others before killing himself in Cumbria, England

In 2021 we had the Plymouth shooting
The Plymouth shooting occurred in the Keyham area of Plymouth, Devon, England, United Kingdom, on 12 August 2021. The gunman, 22-year-old Jake Davison, shot and killed five people and injured two others before fatally shooting himself

So there you have it Two mass shootings before the "effective bans " and two after.

Compare it to the number of mass shootings in USA.

 

[GregW]

Illegal weapons have always been banned.

soon, after banning all illegal offensive weapons….

only legal multi-tool left to use: SPORK

 

[GregW]

I sorted myself out as I couldn't control my intake, but I know plenty of people who abuse themselves with no consequences and have a good time. I wouldn't call them uneducated or idiots.

here is how it is possible, and still can’t understand why it is NOT a basic education requirement to pass secondary school….

https:// youtu. be/QmOF0crdyRU

 

[GregW]

So they haven't been effectively banned then?


I suppose you can make the thread about whatever you want, but it started out about police shooting escaping civilians in the USA and wandered as far off topic as antique American pocket watches.


If not agreeing with ill thought out posts and sound bites is ornery ...

On the subject of mass shootings in the UK There was one in 1987 and I think that resulted in the banning of most semi automatic rifles.

Another in 1996 which resulted in the pistol ban.

Both of these incidents while tragic were the only ones up to that point in the 20 century,

So around 1999 the big pistol buy back took place ruined livelihoods and ruined thousands of peoples preferred sport.
Ah well you say, if it saved one life....

In 2010 we had the Cumbria shootings.
The Cumbria shootings was a shooting spree which occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, taxi driver Derrick Bird, killed twelve people and injured eleven others before killing himself in Cumbria, England

In 2021 we had the Plymouth shooting
The Plymouth shooting occurred in the Keyham area of Plymouth, Devon, England, United Kingdom, on 12 August 2021. The gunman, 22-year-old Jake Davison, shot and killed five people and injured two others before fatally shooting himself

So there you have it Two mass shootings before the "effective bans " and two after.

research you will find out why Second Amendment is even questioned

Mass Formation Psychosis

 

[doctor Bob]

greg: I'm afraid I can't do a 2hr plus video, is it a video telling me how I can control my intake? If it is, the issue is that I like being substance free, and wouldn't have it any other way even with a guaranteed no consequences choice. Life is full and enjoyable.

 

[GregW]

greg: I'm afraid I can't do a 2hr plus video, is it a video telling me how I can control my intake? If it is, the issue is that I like being substance free, and wouldn't have it any other way even with a guaranteed no consequences choice. Life is full and enjoyable.

well, you just spend more hours looking like personally irrelevant individuals moaning about gun control, which none here have any direct power to reconcile the law…

not only “intake”, but how be free of need to dopamine spiking all together…. (Whatever you use to fake crank the system)

PS. I’m doing windows now can’t really write much

 

[artie]

greg: I'm afraid I can't do a 2hr plus video, is it a video telling me how I can control my intake? If it is, the issue is that I like being substance free, and wouldn't have it any other way even with a guaranteed no consequences choice. Life is full and enjoyable.

I recently watched a series on netflix. 8 seasons, 12 episodes in each season, one step at a time.
Just like Confucius say.

 

[GregW]

I recently watched a series on netflix. 8 seasons, 12 episodes in each season, one step at a time.
Just like Confucius say.

Stoicism is another topic
But, yes…

https:// youtu .be/0oVsLkPqXWo

 

[artie]

Stoicism is another topic
But, yes…

https:// youtu .be/0oVsLkPqXWo

Brilliant.

There's a lot of homespun wisdom in that.

 

[GregW]

Actually it's "Well regulated militia"
What is the Militia? It's every able bodied man between 18 and 65 although younger and older have served in time of need.
I seriously doubt that, but I haven't been there recently.

Militia, is a citizens in duty to protect. And there is always time to “of need” when anyone is in public.
You confuse it with military service provided by Government, to protect the citizens.
By The People’s Constitution, all citizens are made responsible to their Republic, not to rely only on Government services.

 

[Fergie 307]

You took my post wrong way.
Society is more and more ignorant by generation, and that’s only reason I would not give fork any teen on the street, as they will poke someone’s eye to get likes on TikTok….
As Anarchist, I believe it’s my responsibility to protect The Law and my personal safety, without relying on others. I’m well trained in hand2hand, and firearms. Not makes me a criminal same, I can’t see any reason why not to shoot2kill armed criminal. Whoever can’t find their place in The Law society, can jump of the cliff as far I’m concerned. BUT, everyone should be helped if they want to return to Law society, and don’t poke me to rant about “prison system” as it a joke at far as re-socialisation goes.

Have to agree with you regarding the prison system. Only ways it could really work would be by have a really effective 're rehabilitation programme as a first step, and locking up up persistent offenders, who are unwilling or incapable of rehabilitation, for life, to save the rest of us from their depredations. In fact we do neither.

 

[Fergie 307]

Artie
Apologies for taking it way off topic with the Watch discussion, but I hope you found it an interesting diversion.
Back to guns, and gun control. Have you thought about a referendum? Both sides would get to put their position to the public, neither would of course lie to you, quote misleading statistics, or exaggerate anything in support of their case. At the end you would have a nice definitive decision, which everyone would be happy had been arrived at In the finest traditions of democracy. Not sure if anyone has tried such an idea, but might be worth a go........???