Ebay seller wanting to add vat

[flh801978]

I dont mind paying the vat if its a level playing field
but so many come along at the last minute and bid forgetting that theres vat to add
I cant imagine the seller selling at a vat inclusive price should lose out if everyone reads the description
the question I sent hasnt been placed for everyone to see
And also the seller has listed it as private bidding which is another thing I hate

Ian

 

[RogerP]

He is a business seller masquerading as a private seller? :!:

 

[flh801978]

Roger
no his business details are there for anyone to see
he just wants to make his own way of making an extra 20% on the sale fee free
and I think theres a chance of shilling going on if the bidders ids are hidden

 

[MartinCox]

Going back to the original issue, I can't see how the OL has no power here. He can "win" but then have to pay an extra 20% or refuse and lose the item. I have found out myself that EBay can be remarkably impotent when it chooses and it may choose so on this occasion. In other words, I would not rely upon it enforcing its own rules and somehow "making" the seller conform.

The real power is to tell the forum about has happened - that's been done - and also the name of the seller company so that we all know what we are dealing with if we encounter that company either inside or outside EBay

 

[flh801978]

I'm sure another will be along in a while but they are rare
Its a fobco pillar drill the 7/8ths one with gearbox
its reasonably local for me for collection (nottingham)


Maybe others could bombard the seller with queries ?

 

[loftyhermes]

one here, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOBCO-7-8-PIL ... 1c58bfe4e7

 

[NickWelford]

It is fairly common at auctions (not necessarily eBay) to add VAT to the hammer price.

 

[flh801978]

Yes but thats probably £2-300.00 more than most go for as an auction

 

[Phil Pascoe]

It is fairly common at auctions (not necessarily eBay) to add VAT to the hammer price.

And lot money and VAT on that.

 

[flh801978]

Oh yes at normal auctions theres buyers commission of perhaps 15% and vat if its a business selling their assets
but ebay you ought to pay the hammer price and if its a business they give you a vat receipt with gross figure being the hammer price

 

[Wildman]

option for reporting is doing ebay out of fees.

 

[Wildman]

just pay via paypal and don't add VAT tell him it is illegal and outside of ebay terms.

 

[brianhabby]

just pay via paypal and don't add VAT tell him it is illegal and outside of ebay terms.

It isn't illegal, just against eBay's terms.

regards

Brian

 

[DiscoStu]

I don't see the issue you know his terms, either accept them or not?

 

[flh801978]

I do know his terms but loads wont who bid and then refuse to pay the extra
so lets say it goes to 300 thats an extra 60 for the vat
whereas it only ought to go to 250 at auction with the vat taking it to 300
If he played by ebays rules at least its a level playing field with everyone knowing that the hammer price is what you pay

 

[blackrodd]

I don't see the issue you know his terms, either accept them or not?

+ 1 for above, Or If you must have the item, pay the vat, when you've got it, complain about the vat added on, you'll get a refund if it's against e bay rules, as you say it is.
Regards Rodders

 

[artie]

I'm sure another will be along in a while but they are rare
Its a fobco pillar drill the 7/8ths one with gearbox
its reasonably local for me for collection (nottingham)


Maybe others could bombard the seller with queries ?

If it isn't new he shouldn't be charging VAT.

 

[marcros]

I'm sure another will be along in a while but they are rare
Its a fobco pillar drill the 7/8ths one with gearbox
its reasonably local for me for collection (nottingham)


Maybe others could bombard the seller with queries ?

If it isn't new he shouldn't be charging VAT.

why not? It isn't about whether it is new or used, but whether the seller is a registered business or not?

 

[defsdoor]

I'm with flh801978 on this one.

If they want to add VAT on top they should sell it somewhere else where that is allowed.

The bid price includes VAT. They should either accept that or not use ebay.

 

[Eric The Viking]

Others have said this, and I agree: do not trust someone who tries to bend the rules.

He's VAT registered, so he is legally required to remit VAT to the Revenue on everything he sells that is VAT-able. They don't care how that is done, as long as they see two numbers: a sale price, and 20% of that to his VAT account.

But he has contractually agreed with eBay to sell in a certain way. The VAT-inclusive hammer price rule is clearly explained, whether the seller likes it or not. If he does add VAT post-sale, he's breaking his contract with eBay (and nobody else), although he's behaving quite legally as far as the Revenue is concerned.

The thing is, though, that he's also revealing how he likes to do business, i.e. sneakily. You may feel the drill is so good you'll take the risk (assuming you win the auction), you may not.

It's your call, but personally I wouldn't.