abnormal drill press runout please help!!

[JWD]

I have a month old axminster trade atdp13b and i've noticed when using a holesaw it didn't look right.... checked with a dial indicator and the runout is 0.3mm+ which is ridiculous no?

am i overreacting? it's very visible and i didn't expect a £400 'trade' machine to act like this.

i'm calling axi in the morning and no doubt they'll sort it out but i really can't be a**ed with the hassle of dismantling and reassembling a 60kg machine

 

[flh801978]

Is this runout on the spindle or the chuck?
Ian

 

[Geoff_S]

I had issues with a similar Axminster pillar drill, a lot of vibration as it was running and other bits. I had to drill, as I recall, a number of 9mm
holes in wood. They came out at 10mm.

I have to say that Axminster were very good, they offered to collect it and refund, but I think they miss the point that as customers, we
pay a premium price for what we think is a premium product to get a job done! Effectively shrugging their shoulders and saying we can
have our money back is no good. I just want what I think I have paid for.

I'm with you on the repackaging to return as well, mine weighs 108kg.

But good luck, it will be interesting to hear what they say to you.

 

[JWD]

hi guys, this is runout with a 15mm piece of precision cold rolled steel only 1.5" from the end of the chuck
chuck runout is .25mm

Yeah i just feel a bit let down - they have such a great reputation that you kind of blindly trust their gear (esp trade rated stuff!!!) i presume theyll offer a replacement but i'm honestly clueless as to what to do as i dont really have time to go through the faff of reassembling.

joe

P.S geoff did you get a refund? what did you do after that?

 

[Geoff_S]

hi guys, this is runout with a 15mm piece of precision cold rolled steel only 1.5" from the end of the chuck
chuck runout is .25mm

Yeah i just feel a bit let down - they have such a great reputation that you kind of blindly trust their gear (esp trade rated stuff!!!) i presume theyll offer a replacement but i'm honestly clueless as to what to do as i dont really have time to go through the faff of reassembling.

joe

P.S geoff did you get a refund? what did you do after that?

They did offer a refund and collection, but that was it. However, I needed a floor standing pillar drill. Because I'm not doing precision stuff, I can make an allowance, so in my example, I needed 9mm holes, so
I used an 8mm drill bit.

I guess that in the end, I sometimes feel as if I just get worn down by this sort of supplier attitude and in this particular instance I could put up with it. I had too much other stuff to be
dealing with at the time.

I actually gave them a 3/5 star review and online they responded by saying that if I was not happy with it that they would refund the full cost. So I don't think you will have any
problems from that point of view.

 

[Mark A]

I also have an Axminster trade drill, which I think has a similar issue with runout on the spindle. I don't have a DTI to confirm my suspicions, but for a machine allegedly rated for heavy use it's disappointing.

Soon after buying the drill I moved house and it was stored at the back of a garage for almost three years. Despite it seeing less than an hour's use since new the warranty has expired so there's not much I can do about it.

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[pcb1962]

hi guys, this is runout with a 15mm piece of precision cold rolled steel only 1.5" from the end of the chuck
chuck runout is .25mm

You need to use a morse taper test bar to see whether the issue is really with the machine and not the chuck or its arbor.

 

[Turbo]

If you want a new drill to be accurate you will need to spend a lot of money. Most of the drills like axminister, draper & sealey are made in china & are not accurate.
I was in a showroom full of sealey drills, some costing £700 and there was play in the quill on every one! :shock:

If you want an accurate drill at sensible money go for a used British made second hand drill like a meddings or startrite.

 

[Myfordman]

If you want a new drill to be accurate you will need to spend a lot of money. Most of the drills like axminister, draper & sealey are made in china & are not accurate.
I was in a showroom full of sealey drills, some costing £700 and there was play in the quill on every one! :shock:

If you want an accurate drill at sensible money go for a used British made second hand drill like a meddings or startrite.

Totally agree! There are too many compromises in most current designs particularly that the height of head casting that needs to be 2 or 3 times the quill travel so that even a full extension, a substantial portion of the quill remains inside the machine as well as being accurately machined and fitted.
Add Fobco, Elliott and Pollard to the list of old British cast iron that can be relied upon.