workshop re-vamp and future projects

[kityuser]

ok so I`ve gone from

to this:

apart from all of the facias and soffets are up now

The question is what next?

inside I`m planning
1) a hutch style workbench a-la-norm.
2) a cyclone
3) some "small helper" projects

I do have a question about the cyclone. Bare with me...........
(I know I need to read up on here about cyclones, and I`ve got some plans already, still early days).

I only have a 1hp chip extractor at the mo, quite insufficient for running a cyclone (so I`ve read), ideally i want to be able to run my T/P, BS, kity 419 and some hand tools off of it.
The way I see it I can either buy a bigger extractor (about 3hp I gather) which even on ebay seems quite £££££! or go the custom blower route (get hold of a 3hp 2 pole single phase motor and build an enclosure).
worries about the custom blower route are primarily balancing the impeller (If I chose to build one rather than source one).

on the other hand I see pages like:
http://www.sydneywoodturners.com.au/sit ... clone.html

and think twice about my requirements.

Ultimately I want a plumbed in system with enough suck to service all my machines.

any thoughts warmly received,

steve

 

[wizer]

I do like that wheelie bin extractor idea. I could have that mounted on my brown bin and just push it down the drive on bin day. :-k

Thanks steve, you've given me an idea there.

 

[joiner_sim]

The re-vamp of the outside looks great now it's done! :wink:

 

[9fingers]

You could always buy the impeller and snail casing as spare parts for a commercial dust collector eg Axminster, Charnwood etc and fit your own motor.
Making and balancing a diy impeller could be quite difficult.

Bob

 

[kityuser]

You could always buy the impeller and snail casing as spare parts for a commercial dust collector eg Axminster, Charnwood etc and fit your own motor.
Making and balancing a diy impeller could be quite difficult.

after a bit of research thats exactly what I'm going to investigate.

ta

steve

ps anyone have any links for axminster/charnwood spares pages?

 

[9fingers]

You could always buy the impeller and snail casing as spare parts for a commercial dust collector eg Axminster, Charnwood etc and fit your own motor.
Making and balancing a diy impeller could be quite difficult.

after a bit of research thats exactly what I'm going to investigate.

ta

steve

ps anyone have any links for axminster/charnwood spares pages?

When I was exploring this route, I talked directly to each supplier. CHarnwood were the most helpful and faxed me an exploding diagram for their w 692 (?) I could identify the parts I needed. I used the approach of needing to fix up an existing machine rather than being totally open about what I needed them for. They were prepared to order these for me but did say they often kept some parts in stock.
Whilst I was waiting for these to be shipped from Taiwan (months!!!) I was able to purchase Barry Burgess's prototype so I cancelled the order on the grounds of delay.

They are a couple of axminster ADE6000 on ebay last night both 3 phase and 5hp but you could fit a smaller single phase motor and sell what you don't need.

HTH

Bob

 

[MikeG.]

Where that little toy castle is outside would make a great spot for a little lean-too enclosing a remote dust extractor. It would save you some vital space inside, and keep the noise down for you whilst working.

Mike

 

[kityuser]

Where that little toy castle is outside would make a great spot for a little lean-too enclosing a remote dust extractor. It would save you some vital space inside, and keep the noise down for you whilst working.

Mike

mike, it would indeed, however SWMBO wants a pergola (spelling?) with a decked area as that spot is a nice little sun trap.

I'm thinking down the other end.... there is about a 5 foot gap inbewteen the workshop and the tumble dryer/freezer shed. Plans are for a bike hut, but I could add a small extension for an extractor cabinet.

The big question is NOISE. I have a great relationship with my neighbours and I wouldn't want to upset them. Would I be able to insulate an external cabinet enough to make noise pollution minimal?

My 1HP charnwood extractor at the moment is whisper quiet.
Making my own blower (with a purchased impellor) and maybe a 2/3HP motor with my own cyclone..... is the general consensus that I'd be able to insulate sufficiently?

thanks for the input everyone, keep it coming

steve

 

[Vinny]

Steve

Totally off topic (sorry)

SWMBO ?? Understand its the missus

Being ex-military mine is the "Long Haired General" or "OC Dishes of Hoover Command"

Vinny

 

[kityuser]

SWMBO

she who must be obeyed


steve

 

[big soft moose]

SWMBO

she who must be obeyed


steve

and according to my swmbo (said swimbo) , we - the husbands- are HWMBI s (said himbees)

"he who must be instructed"

 

[jlawrence]

LOL. I always thought hwmbi was he who must be ignored - I think instructed is better.

 

[Vinny]

lol - thanks for that

I thought it could be skivvy with moist bodily orifice :roll:

 

[kityuser]

tut tut tut

 

[Karl]

You could always do a typo - SWMO...... :lol:

Cheers

Karl

Edit - hope LOML doesn't read this 8-[

 

[9fingers]

Where that little toy castle is outside would make a great spot for a little lean-too enclosing a remote dust extractor. It would save you some vital space inside, and keep the noise down for you whilst working.

Mike

mike, it would indeed, however SWMBO wants a pergola (spelling?) with a decked area as that spot is a nice little sun trap.

I'm thinking down the other end.... there is about a 5 foot gap inbewteen the workshop and the tumble dryer/freezer shed. Plans are for a bike hut, but I could add a small extension for an extractor cabinet.

The big question is NOISE. I have a great relationship with my neighbours and I wouldn't want to upset them. Would I be able to insulate an external cabinet enough to make noise pollution minimal?

My 1HP charnwood extractor at the moment is whisper quiet.
Making my own blower (with a purchased impellor) and maybe a 2/3HP motor with my own cyclone..... is the general consensus that I'd be able to insulate sufficiently?

thanks for the input everyone, keep it coming

steve

If you do use an 'external' extractor remember to return the filtered air back inside the workshop. In winter months the workshop warm air will very quickly be removed. Also if your shop is at all air tight then the suction will be affected unless the air is returned to the shop.
If noise is a problem then you could install a silencer (muffler) details on Bill Pentz site (google for this)

HTH

Bob

 

[kityuser]

Must admit I hadn't thought of that , I suppose most of the noise pollution would be attributed to the exhaust, returning it back inside would minimise any unwanted noise outside?

Lots to think of here..

Steve

 

[9fingers]

Steve,

My cyclone is all indoors and only occupies a 400mm cylinder floor to ceiling.

The blower is mounted in the roof. This picture shows the blower and silencer with the cyclone in the background.

I don't seem to have picture of the filters but they are also mounted on the ceiling and can be seen in this video clip.

http://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n313 ... i_0217.flv

it would be possible to put the cyclone stack and the blower out side the shop just leaving the filters inside. The filters, typically 300mm diameter could be mounted vertically if you are short on space/ceiling height.
Hope this might help with your design.

I have a spare Ikea conical flower pot if you want it. You are welcome to visit and see my set up too.

Bob

 

[kityuser]

Bob , thanks for the info, what power motor do you have on your blower?
I already have some plans I'm going to follow but thanks for the offer

Steve

 

[9fingers]

I use 3 horses (2.2kW), 2 pole motor.
Because I had an inverter, I use a 3 phase motor so I can change the speed to both avoid any resonances and could turn up the speed for extra 'suck'

In practice running at 2850 rpm seems to be fine for all my needs and i get adequate suction on a 10 metre run of 110mm soil pipe and a few metres of 100mm flexy to the machine.

Bob