Workshop pending!

[Jake]

I suspect there are more windows facing the other way, towards the view rather than towards the road - if the architect had any sense at least.

 

[Shady]

if the architect had any sense at least.

Hate to sound like Prince Charles, and at the risk of offending any architects on the board - that'll be the day!

I have this belief that modern architecture is one of the most obtrusive examples of an 'in-group' ending up using design to show off arcane skillsets to one another, rather than to satisfy the customer.... Would you rather live in a Georgian or Queen Anne mansion - or a solid red-brick Victorian semi, for that matter - or something like that prize winner?

It's a bit like one of us designing a dining table based on the shape of a classic cabinet maker's bench to impress other woodworkers, while forgetting that the diners need a certain minimum space between them... Or like being a rich and famous architect capable of designing and building a stunning looking bridge over the Thames that can't take the weight of a few people... 'Form follows function' might be a useful mantra for some of them...:roll: (steps off hobby-horse).

 

[Jake]

I don't know, I quite like it, for a cheap house. The better comparator is probably a battery, I mean Barrett, home.

 

[Jake]

Yes, here you go, views of the other side. The more I see of it, the more I like it. I think it is really quite smart.

http://www.molearchitects.co.uk/hs_blk.html

 

[Jake]

Or like being a rich and famous architect capable of designing and building a stunning looking bridge over the Thames that can't take the weight of a few people... 'Form follows function' might be a useful mantra for some of them...:roll: (steps off hobby-horse).

And that's unfair, the engineers carried the can for that bit of ineptitude.

 

[OLD]

'Building with tin' some of my sudjestions i hope will be helpfull :-
if a stack of panels gets wet it can ruin the sheets in a short time due to electrolitic action .
build a stud and sheet building covered in breather membrane (tyvek) use tin as cladding with a air flow path walls top and bottom, roof eaves and ridge so any water vapour that passes through the structure can escape to free air I expect the originals were built with air flow.
paint the sheets when they loose there shine and go grey

The black house uses a ETERNIT cement fibre board which can be coloured to most colours but it will be heavy and more expensive eternit may be able to advise you on building methods etc

 

[-David-]

Thanks 'Old'

SLE Cladding is good for technical information.

http://www.slecladding.co.uk

I might be creating a rod for my own back and putting form before function but I cannot function properly if I am in a boring environment. I know that is a psychological failing of mine but that's me.

I like the black house which seems to be function over form but I still find it attractive because of its quirkyness. It also shows up the background estate as being rather boring. The black iron could be heat collectors I suppose.

Prince Charles is no more intelligent or creatively astute than any of us, he just has the platform. I do not know if any of you have been around his Dorset village - Poundberry I think ?

Woodbloke - what magazine is F&C ??

David

 

[Shady]

Prince Charles is no more intelligent or creatively astute than any of us, he just has the platform. I do not know if any of you have been around his Dorset village - Poundberry I think ?

Couldn't agree more - hence my concern about sounding like him. That said, Poundberry actually looks like somewhere one might want to live for a period of time, as opposed to a souless concrete jungle - or a black painted sheet of wriggly tin. Anyway, to each his own, and good luck with the build. I was not intending to suggest that a 'boring' environment is preferable, but trying to imply that function tends to be more useful than novelty for long term live-ability. There ain't nothing boring about Queen Anne, Georgian or Victorian architecture - it represents a pinnacle of human focused elegance, where there's space and light for living, within a solid and practical housing that can cope with British weather. That's why they're still around, while many 'bold experiments' have failed to stand the test of time or customer preference.

Show us some pictures of the Tabernacle when done...

(edit - F&C - Furniture and Cabinet making - the premier UK fine woodworking publication)

 

[OLD]

SLE are just 10 miles up the road from me there nice people and the sales are good with technical enquiries , they supplyed my curved sheets there worth avisit.

 

[Offcut]

The black house was on the tv recently - was valued as less than they paid to build it. Not to my taste. The inside was as bland as the outside if I remember correctly.

Andy

 

[-David-]

That's a shame. By bland do you mean boring or minimalist. I would love minimalist if I had a warehouse to store my clutter!!

PS

I had obviously made a mistake with my initial spelling of warehouse as the spellchecker came up with the alternative of whorehouse. Now that would make rummaging through my clutter more interesting !!

David

 

[Jake]

How much then?

 

[Offcut]

It was valued at about the 200k mark, can't remember exactly. Cost about 30k for the land and took about 4 days to erect the timber frame - all finished in 8 months.
By bland I mean lacking architectural features. Just really a square box.
Not really minimalist - just bland

Andy

 

[Jake]

They spent £174k on the build apparently, from the links I looked at earlier this week, and yes, saw a figure of 30k on the land as well. Wasn't entirely clear that the 30 wasn't included in the 174, but I assume it wasn't. Doesn't sound disastrous.

 

[woodbloke]

Well, presumably you can paraphrase some of it. Like maybe, what you did for the foundations, seeing as that was the immediate question?

My shop has foundations built on concrete piers made from lots of 60x60cm paving slabs. bridging the peirs are railway sleepers on edge and on top of that is the DPC and then the workshop base with the suspended floor. A central sleeper wall runs down the middle. The walls panels are made from marine ply, 50mm Rockwool and hardboard on the interior and there is 100mm fg in the roof, workshop is double glazed as well. Heating is provided by a 1.5Kw oil filled rad which runs off a timer twice a day in winter tho' workshop doesn't really need a huge amount of heat as it comes up to temp quite quickly. De-humidified 24hrs/day in summer, less in winter - Rob

 

[Jake]

Thanks, Rob - useful info.

Jake