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Hi all
Im just starting to fix the joists for my workshop floor and have a question.
I am laying 22mm t&G chipboard flooring and i will be gluing the tongues.
Should i nail with 50mm ringshank nails or screw them down?

thanks
Mike
 
Hi Mike,

I would screw them down and minimise the chances of squeeking/loose boards, nothing more annoying.

The annular nails are good but don't think they would be as effective in this application.

Gluing helps also as you are planning to do.

Cheers, Paul. :D
 
I would just screw them down and not bother with the glue. They would be removable then if ever needed.

John
 
Mike

When I laid my WS floor a couple a years ago now I just screwed them to the joists, didn't bother with clueing the joints. had no problem with them so far.

The problem with clyueing the joints is that should for any reason you need to take up a piece of the floor , youhave to worry about the clue joint.
 
Thanks all,
I think that there wont be much chance of unscrewing the floor as i will be painting it afterwards and obviously that will muck up the screw heads,
As for not fixing at all. I had thought about it but am not sure wether it would be ok. I hate wobbly floors. Has anyone tried this?

Then again i suppose the floor itself would be less rigid without fixing the floors to the joists. would this cause a problem also?

I like the idea of no fixings as it would save me work :D

Mike
 
Not fixing the workshop floor may cause alot of vibration and added noise from any machinary you are running . I would screw it down with no glue myself .
 
Glue sheets together do not fit tight to walls to stop bowing, fix with good annular nails and screw near to doorways .Consider insulating between joists.
 
Just following up on the glue/no glue discussion, bearing in mind the panels are T&G chipboard, which has broad tongues, not gluing these doesn't enable you to unscew and lift the panels later if required.

Because of the wide tongues you would still need to cut the panel with a circular saw or similar after unscrewing, to lift after the event, even if not glued.

Gluing adds significantly to the rigidity of the floor and reduces noise in my experience.

May not be absolutely necessary, but gives the best chance of a solid, quiet floor imho.

Cheers, Paul. :D
 
Unless of course I've misunderstood and they are not proper interlocking tongues but just overlaps ?

Cheers, Paul. :D
 
Like Paul, I've never understood the argument about taking panels up later. I've had to gradually replace most of the upstairs floor in my house because it was so noisy, in large part due to shoddy workmanship. I can confirm that getting the panels up again is always a pita!

I would never consider nailing - if the joists shrink, you'll get a gap between chipboard and joist which will squeak like crazy when you walk across it. I would aways screw down to joist and always glue the panels together -it's the only way I've found to ensure a squeak-free floor.

Mike - before you paint the chipboard floor, I would strongly advise you to do a bit of research or paint some test pieces - My own workshop floor (t&g chipboard, glued together and floated on polystyrene) is painted with a floor paint and I've found it rather too slippery for my liking, especially if it gets a little dusty. ( And I do mean a little - it doesn't have to be covered in the stuff!).

Edit: The paint I used was Ronseal's Heavy Duty Floor Paint. I should add that the floor seems to be getting less slippery in the areas which have higher traffic, perhaps as the shine is getting worn away. In other ways it's great - sweeping up is a joy! (well - almost... :))

Dave
 
To stop sqeaking, I heard someone used a zig-zag bead of silicon sealant between joist and board. Haven't used it myself, so can't guarantee any results.
 
I just screwed mine down, no glue or anything like that. I get no squeaking and the ability to get the floor up if need be.
 
Thanks all for your input
I have decided to go the whole hog as i agree that to get tongue and groove boards up is ALWAYS a pain. so i might as well put them down permanently :shock:
so glue and screw it is and i will probably use gripfill to bed them down to the joists as well :shock:

More work and money but i HATE noisy floors.

Thanks again
Oh and pop accross to my workshop tour tomorrow as I'm about to add some more pics to it at last - :D

Oh and I see screwfix do a non slip paint :)

Mike
 

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